Posted on 03/25/2026 12:18:25 PM PDT by RandFan
@RepNancyMace
Just walked out of a House Armed Services briefing on Iran. Let me repeat: I will not support troops on the ground in Iran, even more so after this briefing.
@RepNancyMace
The justifications presented to the American public for the war in Iran were not the same military objectives we were briefed on today in the House Armed Services Committee. This gap is deeply troubling. The longer this war continues, the faster it will lose the support of Congress and the American people.
@RepNancyMace
Washington’s war machine is hard at work. They are try to drag us into Iran to make it another Iraq. We can’t let them.
(Excerpt) Read more at x.com ...
‘ I am. “We” means nothing in that context.’
It does.
Your father might have had a different perspective in that case.
Noted military strategist Nancy Mace has thoughts.
“At best its an “art” not a science!”
Good to see that taxpayer money was not wasted on degrees in journalism and political science. Intelligence maybe, but who says journalists have intelligence? Mace’s masters is in journalism and mass communication and she was a a “DEI admission” to a South Carolina military school.
wy69
Oh good -- you're doubling down on your ridiculous claim that: "the CIA hasn’t been right about one thing since it was organized in 1947."
First, I'll again point out that inherent in your claim is that you know every single thing the CIA has done since 1947, which is ridiculous on its face. You're a keyboard warrior who sits at home reading things other people did and believes that makes you all knowing. But leaving that aside...
I did mention my personal knowledge -- one example of which was intelligence estimates of the likely route of certain Iraqi formations counter-attacking during the Gulf War, on which I was briefed personally and then personally experienced.
But you can skip that too, because here's an obvious one that even your buddy Tim Weiner (who in his book The Mission called President Trump “an authoritarian” who presents the greatest “danger to the national security of the United States since this century began.”) even admits. This is a direct quote from him, and is inarguably is one thing they were "right about":
"The CIA told the president 36 times in early 2001 that Al-Qaeda was planning to strike the United States."
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2026/03/17/the-cia-since-the-turn-of-the-century/
They certainly were right about that, eh?
There's also Weiner himself discussing the locating and killing of OBL, which -- in his book The Mission -- Weiner says was due not to enhanced interrogation techniques, but simply due to CIA personnel on the ground and elsewhere putting together the pieces to correctly locate him in Abbottabad, Pakistan, where we killed him.
Admittedly, you're probably a conspiracist who believes we didn't really kill OBL, or land on the moon, and that Elvis and Jim Morrison are still partying together somewhere in France, but the point is that your own source acknowledges the CIA's success in correctly finding OBL, and providing the actionable intelligence that led to him being taken out.
What? Did they have that info when Bubba Clinton was still in office until January 20, 2001, and didn't tell him, or did they hold that info back deciding to wait until G. W. Bush took office? Their timing for that all-important intelligence smells to me.
It was the CIA that told George H.W. Bush that there was no way Saddam would ever invade Kuwait, and he took them at their word, only to wake up the morning after their last assurance, to find out that thousands of Iraqi military were pouring into Kuwait.
Tim Wiener interviewed former CIA Directors, agents, etc., for the book. The end notes with sources is extensive. You can pretend that the CIA has done more good than harm, history will prove you wrong time and time again.
And by the way, I've been here a lot longer than you, since 1997...28 years total, no breaks, no suspensions, so I'm hardly a keyboard warrior. I would have been long gone by now.
groan.....another MTG...?
Supposedly not an AWFUL but I reserve judgment on that.
Yes, there seems to be something off with this one.
Yes
Apparently yes…HER-DRAMA!
Agree.
As are you as well!
Amen!
As usual you talk out of both sides of your mouth.
This is exactly right. A lot of people would better understand the necessity of what we are doing if they knew how willing the Mullahs are to commit nuclear suicide.
Making objections in public is giving aid and comfort to the enemy. She can voice her objections behind closed doors where it will not encourage the Mullahs to hold out longer.
Had Carter not undermined him in Iran, he would have continued to hold power.
Yeah it wasn't a good idea.
It wasn't a good idea for Carter to undermine him. Keeping the Shah in power is what this nation should have done.
The Mullahs were ultimately behind that, and it seems to me that it was more of a problem with the command structure than the President.
And Operation Earnest Will — where someone in the U.S. thought it made sense to put U.S. flags on Kuwaiti tankers during the Iran-Iraq War — never should have happened.
And what should the alternative have been? I assume most of those tankers supplied Europe, and i'm not terribly concerned with Europe running low on oil.
And what should the alternative have been? I assume most of those tankers supplied Europe, and i'm not terribly concerned with Europe running low on oil.
Well, there's your alternative. It's remarkable how rarely the idea of "Just leave that sh!t alone" comes to the top as the most prudent course of action -- in both government and corporate settings (from personal experience).
My dad served in WW2, His in WW1—my dad is the one who talekd me out of joining the military when I was teenager
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