“I let Prime Minister Netanyahiu know that negotiation is my preference,” Trump said.
Still, “bomb-happy Bibi” reportedly brought (cough) “intel” to the Trump meeting intended to convince Trump to target Iran’s ballistic missile stockpiles (Israeli news outlet i24News propaganda reported).
An astute FReeper posted: There are those so blinded by annual billions of US tax dollars blanketing tiny Israel that “Americans not wanting another Middle East war (just because Israel wants it) is deemed ANTISEMITIC.”
Do we really want to get into a war with Iran ....... a country twice the size of Iraq? With 67 million people who HATE us?
Reality Check
Iran has a large military in terms of personnel, tanks, and regional
proxies, plus Iran has larger numbers in its missile arsenal.
Yet, Israel is generally seen as militarily stronger due to its annoyingly persistent lobby embedding
Israel’s “qualitative edge” in US law without the knowledge and acquiescence of US taxpayers.
Israel slobbers at the US funding trough 24/7 and is dependent on US tax dollars to advance its air power, the paper tiger of its super-hyped intelligence apparat, and its presumably “cutting-edge” technology financed with US tax dollars.
Israeli military is totally dependent on US tax dollars and thus can throw around its military weight against anyone who stands in the way of Israel’s quest for world domination.
Israel makes a sophomoric show-and-tell of “strong US support”.
US taxpayer outlays for its multi-layered air defense system are massive.......
thus making Israel appear to be superior in technological and military effectiveness.
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Message: US Taxpayers want it known: we do not exist to be preyed upon, and are not constitutionally obligated to finance the propaganda of our so-called “reliable allies”—— with greedy pols lusting after billions of our tax dollars.
That's a strange comment ... would you like to explain it?
Nor do we exist to be punching bags as Iran continues proxy wars to kill Americans and support destabilization of our country.
Iran is the greater evil, we get nothing from Iran but at least get something from Israel.
Shove it Liz. What is someone with your attitude doing on Free Republic?
“ Israel’s quest for world domination.”
Is Yassar Arafat on this forum?
Who else are we going to team up with in the Middle East to smoke the muzzies and their military stockpiles? It’s known that Iran has brought in from surrounding countries mercenaries to shoot up un armed civilians...personally I very much like the killings of as many muzzies as is possible and team that up with the expulsion of any muzzie in our Republic that we even think looks sideways. These subhumans that follow the kuran are fools and they breed like roaches with no respect for life as they easily kill their own and neighbors.
I smell equine feces. If we gave those people the weapons to depose the mullahs I'd bet good money the attitude would be gratitude.
Iran has a large military in terms of personnel, tanks, and regional proxies, plus Iran has larger numbers in its missile arsenal.
Anyone remember what a squadron of Warthogs did to the Highway of Death?
See Israel as the observation post that watches for Islam’s moves against the West for their world conquest. Your post tells me you are ignoring that point to minimize Israel’s value in the West’s war against Islam. Why are you doing that?
“Do we really want to get into a war with Iran ....... a country twice the size of Iraq? With 67 million people who HATE us?”
Hate us?? Not necessairly. They hate their government more. It is not like we will go to war (air strikes) against a solid nation that is unified and does not pose a threat against us. It was Iranians who made those IEDs that killed and maimed American soldiers during the Iraqi war and are currently thirsting for the ability to hit the United States with nuclear armed ICBMs.
They don’t hate us. thats ignorant.
Gee, I wonder why they hate us:
Since when do Hamas and Islamic Jihadis get to post on FR?
FU!!
Antisemities can count on Fr's residen isolationist = pro-Muslim anti-Israel tirades.
So once again, As I posted to you last year:
Much of US aid is or will be returned via purchases.
Israel ends up sacrificing far more value in return for the nearly $4 billion it annually receives from Washington. That’s because nearly all military aid to Israel—other than loan guarantees, which cost Washington nothing, the U.S. gives Israel no other kind of aid—consists of credits that go directly from the Pentagon to U.S. weapons manufacturers. In return, American payouts undermine Israel’s domestic defense industry, weaken its economy, and compromise the country’s autonomy—giving Washington veto power over everything from Israeli weapons sales to diplomatic and military strategy. When Washington meddles directly in Israel’s domestic affairs, as it does often these days, Israeli leaders who have lobbied for these payments—including current Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu—are simply reaping the rewards of their own penny-wise, pound-foolish efforts.
The Israeli military, often ranked as the fourth-most powerful in the world, has become an adjunct to American power in a crucial region in which the U.S. has lost the appetite for projecting military force. Israeli intelligence functions as America’s eyes and ears, not just in the Middle East but in other key strategic theaters like Russia and Central Asia and even parts of Latin America. Controlling access to the output of Israel’s powerful high-tech sector is a strategic advantage for the U.S. that alone is worth many multiples of the credits Israel receives. - https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/end-american-aid-israel [and that source is actually opposing the amount of aid.]
I way I see it in brief, Israel lost its land - which, unlike Islam, was conquered due to incontrovertible Divine commandment - due to disobedience to God, and after a succession of conquerors, was was provided a portion of their land back by the last conqueror, while what were essentially squatters, repeatedly rejected offers of peaceful co-existence, which Israel's Arab citizens (about 20% of the Israel) do.
Friends with Benefits: Why the U.S.-Israeli Alliance Is Good for America by Michael Eisenstadt, David Pollock .... The U.S.-Israeli alliance now contributes more than ever to American security, as bilateral cooperation to deal with both military and nonmilitary challenges has grown in recent years... it is a two-way partnership whose benefits to the United States have been substantial. The other, less tangible costs of the U.S.-Israeli alliance -- mainly, damage to Washington's reputation in Arab and Muslim countries, a problem also caused by American interventions and decades of U.S. support for autocratic leaders in the Middle East -- pale in comparison with the economic, military, and political gains it affords Washington.
Israel has also emerged as an important niche defense supplier to the U.S. military, with sales growing from $300 million per year before September 11 to $1.1 billion in 2006, due to the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Israel's military research and development complex has pioneered many cutting-edge technologies that are transforming the face of modern war, including cyberweapons, unmanned vehicles (such as land robots and aerial drones), sensors and electronic warfare systems, and advanced defenses for military vehicles. - https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/friends-benefits-why-us-israeli-alliance-good-america
The U.S.-Israeli economic and commercial relationship now spans IT, bio-tech, life sciences, health care solutions, energy, pharmaceuticals, food and beverage, defense industries, cyber-security, and aviation, to name just a few sectors.
Critical components of leading American high-tech products are invented and designed in Israel, making these American companies more competitive and more profitable globally. Cisco, Intel, Motorola, Applied Materials, and HP are just a few examples.
Israel is home to more than 2,500 U.S. firms employing some 72,000 Israelis, according to an estimate by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Thousands more jobs are supported indirectly by these employers.
The Massachusetts Example
The New England-Israel Business Council released a study that shows that Israeli-founded businesses have generated about 9,000 jobs in Massachusetts alone, and indirectly support an additional 18,000. These companies represent nearly four per
cent of the state’s GDP. And that is just one state. In Beersheva – less than an hour’s train ride from Tel Aviv –American and Israeli companies are working side-by-side at CyberSpark. It is a fast-growing, world-class, hi-tech office park, adjacent to a top academic institution, Ben-Gurion University of the Negev, and not far from where critical public-sector institutions, such as the IDF’s cyber and intelligence units, will soon be located. This unique eco-system is rapidly attracting more American companies to take part in developing the defenses that will protect the new economy. - https://il.usembassy.gov/our-relationship/policy-history/fact-sheet-u-s-israel-economic-relationship/
And the way I see it in brief, Israel lost its land (which, unlike Islamic conquests, was due to incontrovertibly Divine commandment) due to disobedience to God, and after a succession of conquerors, it was provided a portion of their land back by the last conqueror, while those who were essentially squatters repeatedly rejected offers of peaceful co-existence, which Israel's Arab citizens (about 20% of Israel) do.

Source (many more maps): http://www.jewishwikipedia.info/israelmaps.html
And rather than being unjust occupiers of "Palestinian" land, under overt supernatural attestation of Divine command, the Jews conquered a generationally wicked nation group due to being evil, exterminating most. Later, due to disobedience, the Jews lost their historical land to conquerors, with squatters, and via a succession of which they received most their land back, but not all that was promised them. From what I see, the people latter called "Palestinian" were essentially squatters who could have lived in peace with the Jews, with their own state, but rejected the US partition plan.
When Jews began to immigrate to Palestine in large numbers in 1882, fewer than 250,000 Arabs lived there, and the majority of them had arrived in recent decades. Palestine was never an exclusively Arab country, although Arabic gradually became the language of most the population after the Muslim invasions of the seventh century. No independent Arab or Palestinian state ever existed in Palestine. When the distinguished Arab-American historian, Princeton University Prof. Philip Hitti, testified against partition before the Anglo-American Committee in 1946, he said: "There is no such thing as 'Palestine' in history, absolutely not." In fact, Palestine is never explicitly mentioned in the Koran, rather it is called "the holy land" (al-Arad al-Muqaddash).
Prior to partition, Palestinian Arabs did not view themselves as having a separate identity. When the First Congress of Muslim-Christian Associations met in Jerusalem in February 1919 to choose Palestinian representatives for the Paris Peace Conference, the following resolution was adopted:
We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds.
In 1937, a local Arab leader, Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, told the Peel Commission, which ultimately suggested the partition of Palestine: "There is no such country [as Palestine]! 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria." The representative of the Arab Higher Committee to the United Nations submitted a statement to the General Assembly in May 1947 that said "Palestine was part of the Province of Syria" and that, "politically, the Arabs of Palestine were not independent in the sense of forming a separate political entity." A few years later, Ahmed Shuqeiri, later the chairman of the PLO, told the Security Council: "It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria."
Palestinian Arab nationalism is largely a post-World War I phenomenon that did not become a significant political movement until after the 1967 Six-Day War and Israel's capture of the West Bank.
Yet may they, as with Jews, find peace and fellowship thru the risen Lord Jesus which both religions deny.
As for the poverty of Gaza, you certainly cannot be ignorant of the political purposes behind the "plight of the Palestinians" - which is a result of the Islamic 1948 intolerance of the Jews which Muslims sought to expel since 1948. Whereby some non-supporters of HAMAS are victims the the Islamic refusal to allow Palestinians to become citizens in their country (aside from Jordan), for political purposes. Jordan, and Syria.
Israel comprises just 0.2 percent of the Middle East’s land mass while Arabs of today controls 24 nations... 99½ percent of the ENTIRE Middle East land mass, and Muslims of most surrounding nations have sought to kill or expel push the Jews from their ancient national homeland even before as well as after 1947, when Muslims, which came to be called Palestinians - a name cognate with the Biblical Hebrew Pəlīštīm and used for the land of the Hebrews from at least 450 BC (Herodotus) while the residents of Judea and Samaria were considered Jordanians before 1948, including by themselves - rejected the UN Partition Plan which would have established independent Jewish and Arab states and an international control of Jerusalem. Before that, under the 1922 international mandate the British were to help the Jews reestablish their homeland in the territory.
The Muslims would not tolerated the existence of the State of Israel in 1948 since the Arab community was still seeking to control the entirety of the Palestine Mandate itself, thus five Arab armies attacked Israel when it declared independence. Only to henceforth cry victim when they lost this war and subsequent attempts to drive Israel into the sea as it were.
Palestinians are essentially squatters which never were a nation before 1948, while about 20% of Israeli citizens are Arabs, mostly Muslims, with only 14% identifying as Palestinians, and live in homes they either own or rent, and are not required to perform mandatory military service. They have equal voting rights and Arabs currently hold 9 seats in the 120-seat Knesset and have also held various government posts, including one who served as Israel’s ambassador to Finland and the current deputy mayor of Tel Aviv. ( Myths & Facts Online - Human Rights in Israel and the Territories) And see The Real Reason Arabs in Israel Do Not Want to Live in 'Palestine'
However, despite tiny Israel attempting to live in peaceful co-existence with its surrounding Muslim neighbors, even giving up almost all the land is conquered in victory over Muslim attempts to exterminate them, it is threatened and attacked by such, thus resulting in defensive actions which are invoked by liberals as unwarranted aggression, but which are warranted.
And while I am sure Israel has engaged in some wrong actions, and some discrimination exists, and is far from perfect tenants - including allowing “gay” parades,” they are the victims of unjust aggression by other nations.
...some ask why neighboring Egypt and Jordan don’t take them in.... The two countries, which flank Israel on opposite sides and share borders with Gaza and the occupied West Bank, respectively, have replied with a staunch refusal. Jordan already has a large Palestinian population. Jordan’s King Abdullah II gave a similar message a day earlier, saying, “No refugees in Jordan, no refugees in Egypt.” Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sissi...warned of an even more destabilizing scenario: the wrecking of Egypt and Israel’s 1979 peace deal. He said that with the presence of Palestinian militants, Sinai “would become a base for attacks on Israel. Israel would have the right to defend itself ... and would strike Egyptian territory.” https://apnews.com/article/palestinian-jordan-egypt-israel-refugee-502c06d004767d4b64848d878b66bd3d
And as for the GDP of Gaza, what do you think this would be if the were Chinese and lived peacefully with Israel? Meanwhile,
Hamas spends $100 million a year on military infrastructure.Khatib)... As the residents of the Gaza Strip endure daily hardships due to the dire economic situation in the enclave, their Hamas leaders spend over $100 million a year on the group’s military wing, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, according to estimates by both Israeli and Palestinian sources. Spending on digging tunnels accounts for some $40 million of that annual sum. By way of comparison, the budget of the last Hamas government, which dissolved in April 2014, was $530 million. - https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-spends-100-million-a-year-on-military-infrastructure/And as for US aid, much of that is returned via purchases.
Israel ends up sacrificing far more value in return for the nearly $4 billion it annually receives from Washington. That’s because nearly all military aid to Israel—other than loan guarantees, which cost Washington nothing, the U.S. gives Israel no other kind of aid—consists of credits that go directly from the Pentagon to U.S. weapons manufacturers. In return, American payouts undermine Israel’s domestic defense industry, weaken its economy, and compromise the country’s autonomy—giving Washington veto power over everything from Israeli weapons sales to diplomatic and military strategy. When Washington meddles directly in Israel’s domestic affairs, as it does often these days, Israeli leaders who have lobbied for these payments—including current Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu—are simply reaping the rewards of their own penny-wise, pound-foolish efforts.
The Israeli military, often ranked as the fourth-most powerful in the world, has become an adjunct to American power in a crucial region in which the U.S. has lost the appetite for projecting military force. Israeli intelligence functions as America’s eyes and ears, not just in the Middle East but in other key strategic theaters like Russia and Central Asia and even parts of Latin America. Controlling access to the output of Israel’s powerful high-tech sector is a strategic advantage for the U.S. that alone is worth many multiples of the credits Israel receives. - https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/end-american-aid-israel [and that source is actually opposing the amount of aid.]The only option here is to contend that the US should be an isolationist country.
Friends with Benefits: Why the U.S.-Israeli Alliance Is Good for America by Michael Eisenstadt, David Pollock .... The U.S.-Israeli alliance now contributes more than ever to American security, as bilateral cooperation to deal with both military and nonmilitary challenges has grown in recent years... it is a two-way partnership whose benefits to the United States have been substantial. The other, less tangible costs of the U.S.-Israeli alliance -- mainly, damage to Washington's reputation in Arab and Muslim countries, a problem also caused by American interventions and decades of U.S. support for autocratic leaders in the Middle East -- pale in comparison with the economic, military, and political gains it affords Washington.
Israel has also emerged as an important niche defense supplier to the U.S. military, with sales growing from $300 million per year before September 11 to $1.1 billion in 2006, due to the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Israel's military research and development complex has pioneered many cutting-edge technologies that are transforming the face of modern war, including cyberweapons, unmanned vehicles (such as land robots and aerial drones), sensors and electronic warfare systems, and advanced defenses for military vehicles. - https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/friends-benefits-why-us-israeli-alliance-good-america
The U.S.-Israeli economic and commercial relationship now spans IT, bio-tech, life sciences, health care solutions, energy, pharmaceuticals, food and beverage, defense industries, cyber-security, and aviation, to name just a few sectors.
Critical components of leading American high-tech products are invented and designed in Israel, making these American companies more competitive and more profitable globally. Cisco, Intel, Motorola, Applied Materials, and HP are just a few examples.
Israel is home to more than 2,500 U.S. firms employing some 72,000 Israelis, according to an estimate by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Thousands more jobs are supported indirectly by these employers.
The Massachusetts ExampleAnd not a word from you about the slaughter by Hamas, with thousands of missiles, which resulted in this, as well as the refusal by such rebels to live in peace as the many Arab citizens of Israel can, nor a word about Israeli hospitals caring for people injured as a result of Muslim attacks. Only attacks by Israel are mentioned.
The New England-Israel Business Council released a study that shows that Israeli-founded businesses have generated about 9,000 jobs in Massachusetts alone, and indirectly support an additional 18,000. These companies represent nearly four per
cent of the state’s GDP. And that is just one state. In Beersheva – less than an hour’s train ride from Tel Aviv –American and Israeli companies are working side-by-side at CyberSpark. It is a fast-growing, world-class, hi-tech office park, adjacent to a top academic institution, Ben-Gurion University of the Negev, and not far from where critical public-sector institutions, such as the IDF’s cyber and intelligence units, will soon be located. This unique eco-system is rapidly attracting more American companies to take part in developing the defenses that will protect the new economy. - https://il.usembassy.gov/our-relationship/policy-history/fact-sheet-u-s-israel-economic-relationship/
Roughly 21% of Israel’s more than nine million citizens are Arabs. The vast majority of the Israeli Arabs - approximately 83% - are Muslims, 9% are Druze, and 8% are Christian. Some 52% of the Arab citizens live in northern Israel, 20% in the “Triangle” region in the center of the country, 18% in the Negev, and 8% in the mixed cities (Acre, Haifa, Jaffa, Ramla, Lod, Nof Hagalil and Maalot-Tarshiha), 1% in the Jerusalem Corridor (including West Jerusalem) and 2% in the rest of the country.Arabs in Israel have equal voting rights; it is one of the few places in the Middle East where Arab women may vote.
Arabic, like Hebrew, was an official language in Israel until 2018. That year the Knesset adopted the Nation-State Law, which downgraded the status of the Arabic language from an official state language to one holding a more ambiguous "special status."
The sole legal distinction between Jewish and Arab citizens of Israel is that the latter are not required to serve in the Israeli army. This was to spare Arab citizens the need to bear arms against their brethren. Nevertheless, many Arabs have volunteered for military duty – more than 1,000 in 2020 – and the Druze and Circassian communities are subject to the draft.
Some economic and social gaps between Israeli Jews and Arabs result from the latter not serving in the military. Veterans qualify for many benefits and jobs not available to non-veterans. Moreover, the army aids in the socialization process. On the other hand, Arabs have an advantage in obtaining some jobs when Israelis are in the military. In addition, industries like construction and trucking have come to be dominated by Israeli Arabs.
In 2020, the Jewish People Policy Institute (JPPI) reported “a dramatic rise in the share of Arab Israelis who define their primary identity as ‘Israeli,’ and a concomitant sharp decline in the share who self-identify as ‘Palestinian.’” In 2019, only 35.9% defined themselves as Israeli Arabs compared to 47.1% as Palestinians in Israel and 14.8% as just Palestinians (see also Palestinian Public Opinion Polls).
In 2021, tensions between Israeli Jews and Arabs grew significantly with an outbreak of Arab violence in some mixed cities during the Guardian of the Walls operation in Gaza. For the first time, Arabs and Jews in Haifa, Acre, Jaffa, Ramla, and Lod attacked each other. Arabs are proportionately represented in the Knesset and head all their municipalities, schools, and religious courts.
The national election of 2021 was notable for a radical change in Israeli politics, with the Ra’am Party becoming the first Arab party to join a governing coalition. ... It could have brought down the government at any time if it was dissatisfied with its direction. .... - https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-status-of-arabs-in-israel