Posted on 02/07/2026 8:09:44 AM PST by MNDude
Krystal and Saagar discuss secret code words used in the Epstein files.
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I’m convinced that Pizzagate was TRUE!
Also, that some republicans were involved.
It got completely shut down.
That tells me congress critters on both sides were involved.
I th8nk they thought the “debunk8ng” after the strawman shooter at Comet Ping Pong inoculated the public from ever considering the truth. And even here at FR you find people who won’t look at the messages to see how obvious it is that they’re not talk8ng about food. The media is very skilled at the Soviet tactic of demoralization- .making a society unable to see the truth even when it’s right before our eyes. Inoculating us from seeing the truth.
You keep saying the same thing as if that makes it true. Like a little kid who, when told that thechocolate on their face is evidence of eating the forbidden cookie, always responds with, “Is not.”
You’re clogging the conversation with bal9ney and ad hominems, wasting everybody’s time
Huh???
YOUR theory is that Satanic rituals and anything related to them are fantasy. You come here and call names everybody who disagrees.
But when I asked you a simple question but central to your theory: “Do you mean events like the Boston SatanCon don’t exist or have nothing to do with Satan?”, all you can do is bloviating instead of answering?
You know what, since we are trading insults, either you are a fool, or you are too dumb to know you are dumb.
No, REALITY is that every single accusation of Satanic ritual (notice there’s 3 equally words there) since Michelle Remembers was published in 1980 has been proven to be false. Every
single
one
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That’s not saying Satanism doesn’t exist. Of course it does. It’s not saying Satanic rituals don’t exist. Of course they do. We’re entirely talking about SATANIC RITUAL ABUSE. The frequently thrown accusation that people in Satanic cult arrange to get children to abuse them as part of their rituals. THAT does not exist. None of the accusations have ever panned out. That INCLUDES pizzagate.
Interestingly you show exactly how pizzagate works though. Because repeatedly now you have grossly and deliberately changed what I actually said into something else ENTIRELY that has NOTHING to do with what I ACTUALLY said, just so you can throw insults and accusations. Exactly what the pizzagate clowns do. And completely wrong just like them.
I’m saying true things, that you guys refuse to recognize as true. And then you throw insults and lies. You’re wasting your own time. The facts remain, pizzagate is BS, it’s been thoroughly debunked. Those still pushing that narrative are either liars or fools. You can decide which you are, but if you keep pushing this you must be one.
What’s funny is of course he’s also the one that insists there’s talking of $50,000 of hotdogs (which sounds like a Harry Chapin song to me). But of course this is the “we live in our own reality” you see for these kind of things. The whole pizzagate reality rests on the completely unproven assumption that every time a certain group of people mention pizza they’re really talking about child abuse. Once I decide that every time you say X you actually mean Y I can “prove” all kinds of crap. Of course without proving that you really do mean Y when you say X I’m really just making all that crap up. But they’ll never admit that.
You are not engaging with anything factual.
For instance, how do you respond to the “hostess hairy burger? Or the meat pizze accidentally given to the vegetarian who thought the “burger” was cute?
Those comments are a fact. How do you explain those? Engage with the evidence instead of just screaming over and over that it’s been debunked and only an idiot would look at the evidence.
I respond that nobody has proven they mean anything. Or frankly that said quotes even exist. They aren’t fact. And even if they are they prove NOTHING. Again the whole thing build on the completely unproven assumption that every time this group of people say pizza they mean child abuse. And they you expand it so every time they mention food they mean child abuse. But you’ve NEVER proven those assumptions. I can decide that every you use an insult you mean child abuse. I now I look at your 2 posts to me and “prove” you’re a pedophile. See how that works. If you’re going to replace the words people say with your own made up crap then you can make them say anything you want. Except it’s all you. None of that stuff is evidence of anything other than some of you people are really obsessed.
900 times seems suspicious but in ~3 million documents, how many times were other food items mentioned?
“We’re entirely talking about SATANIC RITUAL ABUSE ... THAT does not exist. None of the accusations have ever panned out. That INCLUDES pizzagate.”
And we are just talking about Americans, not mentionning that Mexicans, with their violent culture of occultism, drug, gangs and child trafficking have imported the worst offenders of SRA into the US.
So your whole premise that SRA don’t exist to deny pizzagate is factually wrong. It’s even doubly wrong, since pizzagate is about child sex trafficking, the SRA element is totally secondary and has been added (successfully given how you have been suckered by it) as a red herring to discredit anyone who talks about it.
It is absolutely about the false accusations of SRA.
BWAHAHAHA that link is exactly what I’m talking about. They insist the FBI deliberately blew all those cases. While back in reality we know those cases were built on lies. All those cases are false. ALL of them.
SRA doesn’t exist. That has been proven factually CORRECT. All those accusations are LIES. That has been proven to be factually correct. Pizzagate is all lies. That has been proven factually correct. It’s just people LYING. They lie that when people say X they mean why therefore abuse. That is a LIE. Over and over and over. Lies lies lies. Stop believing those lies. Stop spreading lies.
You are wrong. Your link are liars. We are done. Buh bye.
“They insist the FBI deliberately blew all those cases.”
What is a hairy burger that causes a guy to go “mmmm”?
How can a burger be “cute this morning”, to a vegetarian who was served a hamburger?
What was “Heavenly Burgers” supposed to be able to hide because Epstein loves real burgers?
Start with those questions. Sometimes there is no reasonable explanation except the obvious one, and when that happens, the burden of proof shifts to the one claiming that there’s an innocent answer rather than the obvious one. When you say “debunked” you mean that you don’t have to give an answer besides the obvious one, and that’s a cop-out. You know it’s a copout and so does every honest poster here.
What is walnut sauce on a pizza? What is “an hour of pizza”? Why would somebody ask how many people want to share a piece of pizza? What is a “map” that was left behind after pizza? Why did the pedophile in TX use pizza codewords in the commission of his crimes? Why does the FBI say that the symbols that look a lot like Comet Pizza’s logo are code signs for pedophiles, with each symbol having specific meanings to the people involved? Why were the urban dictionary references to pizza, etc there for all (including cgbg) to see BEFORE the media got ahold of the Pizzagate story but not now?
You can say “It’s all debunked” as many times as you want, but those very real questions about genuine facts are still there. What is your explanation for them?
When somebody uses the word “gay”, what does it mean today? How do you know what it means? It has a dictionary meaning and it has a coded meaning that everybody knows and uses. How do you know which meaning it has? How would you know if it was NOT the dictionary meaning being used? For instance, if somebody says that people discriminate against gays, what does that mean? If you believe that the word “gays” is code/newspeak for “homosexuals”, does that mean you are using your “own made up crap”? Or does it mean that you have the skill of understanding context and seeing when the dictionary meaning makes no sense within the context?
And why are you trying to claim that the quotes I gave you don’t even exist, when I’ve already given the links to the justice.gov location where those records were just released? The quotes I’ve given are facts. They were communicated in the exact emails that are documented on the justice.gov website. Why are you questioning whether they even exist?
I don’t know. And I don’t care. You’re the one making he accusations, you’re the one with the burden of proof. And you won’t even try to prove that it has anything to do with child abuse, and you wouldn’t succeed if you did.
No YOU start with those question. The fact that you won’t try to prove the key to your accusations. That in 10 years of this nonsense not one single one of you has ever even tried to prove it, that right there debunks the whole freaking thing. The accusers have no proof.
Then of course there’s lack of basement, and all the other factual situations that show that it can’t be proven.
It is debunked. You are a liar. We are done. Have a great day.
Once again we see how there can never be discussion about evidence, with those who claim “It’s all been debunked.” If it was really debunked they would be excited to blow all the questions out of the water. But they don’t, because they can’t.
The evidence suggests that foods are being used as code words for something else. Epstein himself said they could hide something else behind his love of burgers. Can I prove what it was he intended to hide behind food references? No. But where there’s smoke there’s fire, and it is the job of investigators to find out.
In a case in TX the investigators found a pedophile using “pizza” as a code word for sex with a child. A language only works if the people using it know what the words mean. That guy certainly acted as if the community knows that “pizza” refers to sex with a child. Presumably the FBI has seen enough of these people communicating in this way that they came up with a sheet describing the imagery and language. The urban dictionary knew all about it. Until the media tried to cover for Pizzagate, just like they covered for Harvey Weinstein all those years.
My son suggested that “burger” is slang for an American, and that two men could get the nickname “double burger” because they are two Americans. Maybe. Still doesn’t explain Epstein saying they could hide what they’re really doing behind his own love of actual food burgers.
I gotta say, though, that the part in ‘Pink Panther” where Steve Martin describes the uncouth Americans who eat disgusting things called “hamburgers”, but then he falls in love with the burgers and gets caught smuggling them in the airport.... is totally silly in the movie because it’s a real hamburger that’s nothing you need to hide. But maybe Steve Martin knew something we didn’t.
I’ll talk to myself a little bit more. lol
“Hot dog” has 96 instances, but a bunch of them are all from the same communication. I wasn’t able to see anything that seemed fishy, nothing to prove it was anything but a food hot dog.
So 3 common food items. Hot dog has 96 instances which is probably a lot closer to 20 distinct instances. Burger has 576, including some that are duplicated but also some that are definitely suggestive that it means something besides a real food item. And “pizza” has 844 results. I haven’t checked to see if a lot of those are duplicates or whether any of them have things that suggest a non-food item. In his interview with Tucker Carlson Ian Carroll seemed to think there were cryptic references there.
Another interesting point is that Epstein was ranting about a woman who claimed she was a sex slave for the rich, and his response was that it was impossible because she was a waitress at a burger place! Well now, maybe that’s why he wanted to use “Heavenly Burgers” as a cover for what he was really doing. Maybe they hire extra “waitresses” that nobody would miss if they disappeared at various times during the day. I should see which burger place she worked at, and how often that name appears in the file.
it wasn’t Epstein who said Virginia Guiffre worked at a burger bar. It was Ghislaine Maxwell who claimed that, as well as a pilot. Maxwell was found at an In-n-Out Burger place (nothing suggestive about that, I’m sure).
Maxwell claimed it was proved that Guiffre worked at a burger place and that she left after the owner accused her of stealing $300 in tips. But I don’t know what proof maxwell claimed there was.
It is enlightening, though, that just like Epstein suggested to his friend (Steve hanson?) that they could hide their real work behind Epstein’s passion for real food humburgers, Maxwell is using the idea that anybody who works at a hamburger joint could not possibly also be a sex slave. It all seems to fit together. Create this wholesome narrative of “burgers” and nobody dare question it; it HAS to be just plain ol’ burgers.
According to the testimony at https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00794556.pdf , Guiffre was working at Roadhouse Grill.
Searching for Roadhouse Grill, there are a number of entries that involve FedEx shipments made to the owner of Roadhouse Grill, Darren Indyke. When you look for Darren Indyke there are a bunch of Indyke names with various aliases in Epstein’s address book, apparently. And records searches for Darren Indyke.
I’m not a financial forensics person so i don’t know what all this means, but it seems to me that there was something going on between Epstein and Roadhouse Grill that’s more than him just eating there occasionally.
I already lost my husband because of my research about Obama’s birth records and the pre-arranged water landing of Loretta Fuddy that was used to call her dead (she’s probably somewhere abroad with a new face, new body, new name, and new identity). So I’m not sure I want to dive too deeply into all this, but there’s a bunch there for anybody who’s game to look into it.
The pizza stuff should be researched. So should the burger stuff - especially since Epstein himself said in one of these records that his love of burgers would make a great cover story for this “Heavenly Burgers” which was really about something else.
I don’t know much about Guiffre or her claims, but from what i’ve read that Ghislaine’s people wanted to question her about, it seems like she was pretty messed up and probably involved in both drugs and the occult. They present this as a reason to disbelieve her, but it seems to me as a reason to find out how she got so messed up and introduced into the occult. The CIA makes sure their agents are compromised so they can be discredited if they ever whistleblow (see Dennis Montgomery, for example). The NXIVM cult required embarrassing videos so the girls would be too afraid to ever leave. There are rap artists who say they were drugged and sodomized on video by the company offering them contracts, with the treat that the videos would be released if they didn’t do whatever they were told. This is the way these things work. Human traffickers would seek out vulnerable kids to exploit because if they weren’t vulnerable they wouldn’t fall. And that’s why I really, really want these jerks to face justice. The vulnerable among us should be protected, not preyed upon by the glamorous elites of the world. spit.
If she was a waitress at Roadhouse Grill and Epstein was sending mysterious packages to Roadhouse Grill... it bears some looking into.
Remember obama sending out for hot dogs from the White House to Chicago?
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