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Green fades to red
American Thinker ^ | 26 Dec, 2025 | Bill Ponton

Posted on 12/26/2025 5:27:13 AM PST by MtnClimber

“Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”

Attributed to Voltaire, this quote holds great significance, even in our modern times. In the twentieth century, we saw absurd ideologies like communism and Nazism take root in modern states and drive civilized people to commit unfathomable atrocities. The popular notion of race-poisoning propelled the Nazi regime on a militant crusade to purge the European continent of inferior peoples, as the regime defined the term. In the second half of the twentieth century, the equally absurd notion of ubiquitous ecological poisoning took hold in the West, spawning a new movement, which in our century, has resulted in a crusade to completely refashion the energy sector. The movement has widespread popular support, especially amongst Western administrative elites. We have seen that support erode only recently as people realize the consequences and cost of the crusade upon which they embarked.

Along the way, this so-called “green” movement has shown its true colors to be red, having no qualms about imposing its will from above.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: leftism

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1 posted on 12/26/2025 5:27:13 AM PST by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

The democRATs think the problem is that the right people did not implement the atrocities.


2 posted on 12/26/2025 5:27:26 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

We’ve been calling them global socialist Watermelons for 15-20 years. Its been obvious they were all commies just trying to smuggle in the same old socialism covered in a green wrapper for a long time.

After all when it goes from scarcity “the Population Bomb” to the coming ice age to global warming over the span of about 3 decades and yet the “solution” to the “crisis” is always lower your standard of living and surrender more power to the government, you know its a scam....a quest for a “crisis” so they can impose what they wanted all along anyway.

Another real tell is the complete ideological inconsistency. If they were serious about the Gaia Worship, they would oppose 3rd worlders leaving behind their virtuous low carbon lifestyles to move to rich western countries with their sinful high carbon lifestyles. Yet, they’re in favor of it. Obviously they don’t mean a single thing they say.


3 posted on 12/26/2025 5:40:20 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

There was an ideological battle within the environmental groups like the Sierra Club.

The true environmentalists were crushed and the organizations became open border whores for the left.

This article has some interesting details:

https://cis.org/Immigration-Studies/Brief-Chronology-Sierra-Clubs-Retreat-ImmigrationPopulation-Connection-Updated


4 posted on 12/26/2025 5:44:06 AM PST by cgbg ("Your identity is how power treats you.")
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To: MtnClimber

I’ve known this is a front for the hammer and sickle. Why do they celebrate “Earth Day” on the birthday of the Father of Communism. V. I. Lenin?


5 posted on 12/26/2025 5:52:43 AM PST by WhiteHatBobby0701
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To: WhiteHatBobby0701

Our city has city owned solar panels. Our county is heavily covered with solar panels. Michigan just approved law that local municipalities will not have control over solar panels. Yet, I can’t put a solar panel on my roof or in my yard. Scammers all. And the land will never be farmed again due to the infrastructure of the panel supports.


6 posted on 12/26/2025 6:01:04 AM PST by healy61
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To: healy61

Why Sen. Dirksen is correct. Urban rule is a point of modern Democrats to shut out rural America. They hate farms, they want everything else.


7 posted on 12/26/2025 6:09:18 AM PST by WhiteHatBobby0701
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To: MtnClimber

The original hard core limited population growth environmentalists hated all humans.

The more current version just hates white humans.


8 posted on 12/26/2025 6:15:40 AM PST by cgbg ("Your identity is how power treats you.")
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To: MtnClimber

Me:
How long ago did man learn to light fires for cooking and heat?

Meta AI:
Humans likely learned to harness fire for cooking and heat around 1.7 to 2 million years ago, with evidence suggesting controlled use of fire by Homo erectus around 1 million years ago.

The earliest known traces of controlled fire were found in Israel, dating back to around 790,000 years ago, with evidence of cooking dating to around 780,000 years ago.

Early Evidence of Fire Use:
Africa: Wonderwerk Cave in South Africa shows evidence of controlled fire use around 1 million years ago.

Asia: Xihoudu in China and Yuanmou in China have evidence of fire use dating back to 1.7 million and 1.7 million years ago, respectively.

Europe: Beeches Pit in England has evidence of fire use dating back to around 415,000 years ago.

The use of fire had a significant impact on human evolution, enabling geographic expansion, cultural innovations, and changes to diet and behavior. It provided warmth, light, protection, and a means of cooking food, ultimately shaping human societies

Me: Everybody in all of history heated their homes and cooked with fire.

Me:
What produces more CO2, a fire in a fireplace all night long or an average car in California?

Meta AI:
Let’s crunch some numbers.
A fireplace burning wood all night (say, 8 hours) produces around 60-80 pounds of CO2.
An average car in California, driven for a typical day (say, 30-40 miles), produces around 1-2 pounds of CO2 per mile, so roughly 30-80 pounds of CO2.
So, roughly equivalent, but the car might edge out the fireplace, depending on specifics like wood type, car model, and driving habits.

Me:
I see bubbles coming up from lakes and ponds. Are those greenhouse gasses and do those same gasses enter the atmosphere from dry land?

Meta AI:
Those bubbles are likely methane (CH4) or carbon dioxide (CO2), both potent greenhouse gases. They’re produced by microorganisms breaking down organic matter underwater.
Yes, similar gases are released from dry land, like:
Soil microbes decomposing organic matter
Termites and other insects
Agricultural activities
Natural gas seeps
But the processes and amounts differ. Wetlands and lakes are major methane sources, while dry land tends to release more CO2.


9 posted on 12/26/2025 6:16:25 AM PST by Haddit
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To: Haddit

Don’t forget context, your AI should have noted this...
Carbon dioxide (\(\text{CO}_{2}\)) makes up about 0.04% of the Earth’s atmosphere by volume, while methane (\(\text{CH}_{4}\)) makes up a much smaller percentage, around 0.00019% (about 1.9 parts per million).


10 posted on 12/26/2025 6:46:06 AM PST by Waverunner (Torah! Torah! Torah! my favorite IDF radio code.)
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To: MtnClimber

The greens have also aligned with the other, far more dangerous green, Islam.


11 posted on 12/26/2025 7:03:40 AM PST by montag813
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To: MtnClimber
Scientific facts matters very little to the Left, unless it's useful.
Only facts that support their ideology are FACTS, "settled science" even.
Facts that prove their stance wrong are either ignored or called "misinformation".
And of course most science reports are less certain, allowing the Left to twist the numbers to their liking.

12 posted on 12/26/2025 7:13:41 AM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty)
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To: Waverunner

Yeah, it’s hard to prompt AI.
For instance I specified cars in California because of their strict emissions standards.
In California, if your car can’t pass the smog test, your car becomes worthless.
It’s a simple argument that man has been burning fires and releasing CO2 for a million years.
It’s something liberals can wrap their heads around without going into Agenda 21 and sustainable living.
Illegal aliens and providing them housing in sustainable living.
Creating 6 million refugees from Syria from 2011 to 2017.
The regime change wars of Egypt, Libya and Tunisia.
All of it done with a cabal of players controlling the White House since 2008 Obama.
We have a hard enough time with nearly 700 unelected federal judges legislating from the bench.
The cabal of Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela, the cartels and others rigged our elections.
Our politicians were bribed to allow illegal immigration and drugs to destroy our republican form of government.

Billionaire Patrick Byrne spent tens of millions of dollars tracking down what went wrong with the 2020 election.

The cabal used Smartmatic election machines in 2004 to elect Hugo Chavez as president of Venezuela and brought Smartmatic into the U.S. in 2006 where they used it to help Obama in the primaries. Smartmatic would send our voter data to Belgrade-Serbia, change the votes and send it back.

Patrick Byrne has spent his money conducting this investigation since 2020, also protecting these dozen whistleblowers and some of their family members. He had 30 people under his care and that involved providing housing and food for them, moving them from South America to Switzerland, then to the Bahamas and finally ultimately into the United States.

But that also meant they had to have serious security. So he hired former green berets. He’s dropping hundreds of thousands of dollars a month in keeping these whistleblowers alive so that they can tell the incoming Trump administration, the US government, what Venezuela has done.

Smartmatic flipped the votes in 72 countries.

Elon puts it into his AI program, produces a one sheet, looks at the summary, and says, you know, expletive, expletive, this is real, gets on the phone, and Susie says, we’ve got a problem here. This is, we’re effed. He flies to Pennsylvania the next day, October 17, 2024, where he does this two-hour town hall, where he talks specifically about Dominion voting systems and how our elections are rigged.

There’s a team of DOD contractors who, you know, based on existing executive orders and law, when there’s a cybersecurity threat to the U.S., has the authority to combat it. They shut down the power, all connectivity to the Belgrade, Serbia office for three days, including the day before the election, and the flip doesn’t happen. And Trump is able to win the 2024 presidential election.

Trump has got this military buildup outside of Venezuela. I don’t think a lot of people understand that it’s about more than Trinidad and Tobago, even, or the drug trafficking, that it is this election interference that has changed the global order. And also, there’s the counterintelligence part of this.

One thing that a Venezuelan, a former high level general, okay, he was the head of military intelligence. His name was Hugo Carvajal. He’s in our custody for drug trafficking.

He was extradited here in 2023. He defected from Venezuela in 2017. He was hiding out in Spain.

Hugo Carvajal has names of many, many, many U.S. diplomats and CIA officials who they bribed and essentially are traitors to the U.S. They are spies for Cuba, Venezuela, which means also China, Iran, and Russia.

We have a major problem with corruption in our country. If Carvajal gave those names and they went and investigated, it could maybe be a little bit destabilizing because it’s high level people.


13 posted on 12/26/2025 7:37:25 AM PST by Haddit
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