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"NO ONE MOURNS THE WICKED" -FROSTY THE SNOWMAN THRU THE EYES OF THE MAGICIAN; that old silk hat..who had rights to its ownership?
Wicked Run Press ^ | December 7, 2015 | Mark Matthews

Posted on 12/23/2025 7:38:47 PM PST by DoodleBob

Growing up in the 70’s and 80’s, watching the Christmas specials was a huge part of Christmas. Before the day of DVR, and when VCR tapes were just emerging, catching the live Christmas specials was an exciting event and my eyes were glued to the TV. I caught every nuance of every program over the years, and of course had questions.

Like, in Frosty the Snowman, why does Karen wear gloves and mittens yet her legs are fully exposed to the cold? And if you watch carefully, when the children run out of the school house, a little boy jumps on a sled which goes both ‘up’ and down a hill? Being an avid sledder, I just knew that wasn’t right, so my questions came.

And as I grew older and my moral compass developed, I started to question the Villain of the story of Frosty the Snowman. Yes, I started questioning the mythology that was part of my youth and I looked at the story through a different lens.

If the Wizard of Oz can be rewritten through the eyes of the Wicked Witch of The West, then certainly Frosty The Snowman can be retold through the eyes of the bumbling and bitter magician dressed in black; Professor Hinkle.

The cartoon version of Frosty begins with the Magician’s hat failing him while he performs to a classroom of children. He throws the hat in disgust, but just then the rabbit finally appears and hops away with the hat out the front door. The magician gives chase, but the hat ends up on the snowman the children have just built. The iceman comes to life with his proud first words, “Happy Birthday!”

It was his birthday, and it was a regular miracle. A Christmas day virgin birth. Indeed, ‘there must have been some magic on that old silk hat they found.’

But did they really ‘find’ the hat? They refuse to give the hat back to the magician, saying it was now there’s, but was ownership ever really ‘transferred’? The magician did throw the hat away, but after he threw it he immediately tries to get it back, chasing it down before Karen places it on Frosty’s head.

So who does the hat belong to?

A fight over ownership of the hat ensues, and the conflict of the story becomes a chase, a hunt really. The Magician becomes an obsessed Javert, tracking the fugitive Jean Valjean Frosty to the North Pole, where Karen is bringing him so that he doesn’t melt away.

Why don’t we question which side is in the right? Do the sad faces of the children increase sympathy and tilt the justice in their favor?

I remember as a child how sad I was for Karen when her teardrops spilled into the puddle that used to be Frosty, and how I wanted her suffering to end and her sadness to go away. Hurry, Santa, I pleaded in my head, tell her that frosty isn’t gone but will come back with the first Christmas snow.

But who will cry for Professor Petra Hinkle, the Magician?

No one mourns the Wicked.


TOPICS: History; Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: frosty; propertyrights; theft

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Partly tongue in cheek, and partly serious: Is Frosty actually a pro-commie piece of propaganda? As written elsewhere:

Finders, keepers? Isn’t that what bullies say? The hat is this hacky magician’s livelihood! It’s wonderful that it possesses supernatural animating properties, but along with all its magic, it belongs to its rightful owner. The magician may be an ass, a jerk, ill-tempered, nasty and all the rest of it — but he is still the legal proprietor of that hat. Robbing him of his most valuable possession and running away with it because you think you deserve it more is anarchism, lawlessness, a breakdown of order. What will these punks get up to next? Beat the crap out of Mr. Hooper on Sesame Street? “I’ll have an orange soda, mister — a CLOCKWORK orange soda!”

1 posted on 12/23/2025 7:38:47 PM PST by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

“Now, of course, the hat did belong to Frosty and the children; that point must be made very clear”

- The inimitable Jimmy Durante


2 posted on 12/23/2025 7:44:11 PM PST by P.O.E.
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To: DoodleBob

I noticed the networks didn’t televise “A Charlie Brown Christmas” or “The Little Drummer Boy”.


3 posted on 12/23/2025 7:54:23 PM PST by kawhill (And the sea will bring each man new hope as sleep brings dreams of home. C.C.)
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To: DoodleBob

Don’t forget to focus on the unsafe and unsound banking practices at the Savings and Loan in “It’s a Wonderful Life”.


4 posted on 12/23/2025 7:58:47 PM PST by PAR35
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To: DoodleBob
“catching the live Christmas specials”

The writer of this story thinks a cartoon was live?

5 posted on 12/23/2025 8:02:31 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: P.O.E.

Technically, The Professor threw his hat at the trash can, but he missed. This, it was still his property.

The hat bounced back, the rabbit came out and ran off with the hat. The magician tracked it down.

Yes, the magicians a terrible human. But it’s his hat. The kids had no right keeping it from him.


6 posted on 12/23/2025 8:04:20 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob

In order to have better conversations, you should ask people about themselves. Such as “ doodleBob WTF is wrong with you?”


7 posted on 12/23/2025 8:06:54 PM PST by Ikeon (Kill me, and I'll become more powerful than you could ever imagine. )
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To: PAR35

Or the crimes The Grinch committed.


8 posted on 12/23/2025 8:10:38 PM PST by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: kawhill

AppleTV somehow acquired the rights to Charlie Brown and thus after a half century, the network broadcast tradition ended.


9 posted on 12/23/2025 8:20:28 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Ikeon
Lots of us see things differently.


10 posted on 12/23/2025 8:20:58 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob
"Bah! The only thing that hat's good for is the trash can!"

"If that hat is really magic, I want it back."

"But isn't yours anymore - you threw it away."

11 posted on 12/23/2025 8:22:13 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: No name given ; PAR35
More people like me: How the Grinch Committed Conspiracy, Terrorism, Burgled, and Stole Christmas

Conspiracy: Our first criminal act begins when the Grinch makes his plan with Max the dog to commit crimes like trespass, breaking and entering, and the theft of a whole lotta presents. Conspiracy statues require an act taken in furtherance of the crime. Surely, when the Grinch puts on that ill-fitting Santa suit and plops the horn on Max's head to disguise him as a reindeer, we have our necessary acts. Whether or not Max actually agreed to commit any crime, however, is arguable.

Terroristic Acts: We also know that the Grinch's main purpose was to keep Christmas from coming, and in order to do that, he intended to demoralize the entire population of Whoville. Would that not fit the description of domestic terrorism as found in Section 802 of the Patriot Act? Specifically, the Act prohibits acts "intended ... to intimidate or coerce a civilian population ...." If wiping out every vestige of a civic celebration with the intent of spreading trauma throughout a specific geographic area is not intended to "coerce" a population, then we don't know what is.

Burglary, Trespass: Since trespass is sometimes a lesser included offence of burglary, let's lump them together. We know that the Grinch entered the property of, and then broke and entered into, each house in Whovillle with not just the intent, but the result of larceny. Witness: He slithered and slunk with a smile most unpleasant around the whole room and he took every present! Yep, it looks like we have the requisite elements to nail that green SOB for burglary.

12 posted on 12/23/2025 8:24:26 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: Ikeon

One point that is being missed is the fact that, regardless of how it came about, Frosty was a living, sentient being. Taking the hat away from him would effectively cause his death. Did the magician’s right to reclaim a material object (that he clearly intended and attempted to throw in the trash) outweigh the right of Frosty to live? Even when he owned the hat, Professor Hinkle was called “the world’s worst magician” by the narrator. Even if he had the hat back, it obviously didn’t work for him before and it would have been no more use to him than it had before it benefited Frosty.


13 posted on 12/23/2025 8:24:56 PM PST by fidelis (👈 Under no obligation to respond to rude, ignorant, abusive, bellicose, and obnoxious posts.)
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To: DoodleBob

No one mourns the Wicked.

The one’s who opposed the wicked, they will vilify the evil ones in word and history.

Then one hundred years or so later they will be normalize by the left.

A few years after that after flipping the narrative they will deify them. At least that’s what the sososocilists, lip-service liberals, communist fellow travelers and or deficient fascists will do along with the liberTARDS and the woke.

It wasn’t true socialism....

It wasn’t true communism....

WE/they only killed the reactionaries....

Just like the moslems, islam treats the western would....


14 posted on 12/23/2025 8:26:26 PM PST by BFW
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To: Republican Wildcat

He threw it at the trash can, but missed. And even if the hat was in the can, it remains his property until the can is curbside. That’s important, legally. https://www.proudpolice.com/police-questions/is-garbage-on-the-curb-public-property


15 posted on 12/23/2025 8:27:26 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob

Like I tell my wife when she picks a show apart, it is a tv show and not real life. It is meant for entertainment to help you forget about real life for a half hour or an hour and nothing more.


16 posted on 12/23/2025 8:29:11 PM PST by Dan Zachary
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To: DoodleBob

Are you going to do “Rudolph and the island of toys violating
Section 106 of the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act of 2008 (CPSIA), 15 U.S.C. § 2056b” next?


17 posted on 12/23/2025 8:56:59 PM PST by KarlInOhio (I pray that the sleeping giant has finally awakened and been filled with a terrible resolve.)
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To: KarlInOhio

No, because the Founders’ Commerce Clause never intended for such overreach to be possible.

That said, Santa, in Rudolph, is a jerk: he barges in to his employee’s home, mocks his employee’s child, sings a narcissistic song, and leaves. Santa warms up to Rudolph only when he needs him.

Santa sounds like a DNC member.


18 posted on 12/23/2025 9:21:34 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: Dan Zachary

Believe me, I’ll watch Frosty again. And the Grinch, too.

And yes, it is fiction.

And while I may come across as being in need of a hobby, THIS guy takes the cake: https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/a-very-gay-jewish-christmas

But that doesn’t mean we should discard our thinking caps. Indeed, Hollywood is notorious for pushing leftist nonsense on the public.

Do I think the Rankin-Bass writer for Frosty was a subversive? No. Do I think every kid watching Frosty voted for Kamala? Nah.

But right is right, and the hat belongs to the magician.


19 posted on 12/23/2025 9:22:00 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob

Prof. Hinckley


20 posted on 12/23/2025 9:32:55 PM PST by Fledermaus ("It turns out all we really needed was a new President!")
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