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hooked on heroin only after his parents put him in a New Age rehab facility

Evidence of "mitigating factors" accumulating for his defense.

1 posted on 12/23/2025 8:06:39 AM PST by Angelino97
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https://courts.ca.gov/cms/rules/index/four/rule4_423

On mitigating factors.


2 posted on 12/23/2025 8:11:16 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away! 🇺🇸 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 )
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The rehab had nothing to do with heroin. Addicts always dig for excuses. Maybe God will show mercy and have him realize this is rock bottom.

EC


3 posted on 12/23/2025 8:12:45 AM PST by Ex-Con777 ("Journalism is about covering important stories-with a pillow, until they stop moving." ~ David Burg)
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FWIW, I don’t think this will go to trial.


4 posted on 12/23/2025 8:12:50 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away! 🇺🇸 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 )
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I knew it would all point back to Meathead. He’s was such a fool yet projected against real people.


6 posted on 12/23/2025 8:18:13 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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Saw an interview....Nick said he had been to rehab 17 or 18 times...and he was laughing about it...


7 posted on 12/23/2025 8:18:56 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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Nick Reiner got hooked on heroin after going to rehab at just 16

Most 16 year old boys get hooked on hergroin instead, a lifelong addiction that leaves many in poverty.

10 posted on 12/23/2025 8:23:52 AM PST by Reeses
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So he had to go to rehab at age 16. Where were his parents when he was 12-16?


13 posted on 12/23/2025 8:26:56 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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Not mitigating by rather explanatory; Jerry Garcia also became an addict but did not murder anyone.

Addiction is a dark, dark path but there is hope for those who choose light.
14 posted on 12/23/2025 8:29:56 AM PST by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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I worked with a woman whose husband went to gambling ‘recovery’ meetings. She said it was all men who traded stats and where the best casinos were. He never recovered nor even came near.


16 posted on 12/23/2025 8:35:24 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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The sitcom All in the Family aired their death-penalty episode in 1971. California put a moratorium on the DP in 72, thus sparing the lives of the Manson Family. Meathead has been influencing California politics for a very long time.


18 posted on 12/23/2025 8:41:33 AM PST by SpaceBar
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I don’t know what all these other people are talking about. I was there twice, once in April-July of 2021 and again in June-September in 2022. I also went to 3 other places. Maybe I didn’t have bad mental problems, and it was more just my … More

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I went here over a decade ago - it taught me emotional literacy, gave me a love of nature, reset my relationship with my parents, and set me back on the right path for college. … More

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Lwk fire would go again if I wasn’t in my 20’s. Better than the other wilderness I’ve been to. Actually helped me change and at points rather enjoyable. Staff Ryan is the goat. And thanks Derrick for being a real one. Also stop leaving surfies around campsites.

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19 posted on 12/23/2025 8:42:47 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.)
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When Meatloaf died a little while back there was a story about his daughters getting grief from rich Westport CT girls in school and him moving the family upriver to a more modest middle class town.

It would have been good advice for the Reiners to move out of Brentwood to a place with fewer temptations, but Rob was already a 2nd generation celebrity and I guess the Reiners weren’t willing to give up the glamour and glitz. They assumed they were getting support and acceptance and fellowship from the people around them but their kids were in a snakepit of privilege and drug use.


20 posted on 12/23/2025 8:46:20 AM PST by x
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Sounds like pops just sent him away to trainers rather than deal with his own son. Those rehab places exist to collect money from lazy wealthy people (when it comes to family) and don’t actually do anything. I have a hard time finding any sympathy for meathead.


21 posted on 12/23/2025 8:46:30 AM PST by Organic Panic ('Was I molested. I think so' - Ashley Biden in response to her father joining her in the shower)
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Expensive “rehab facilities” proliferated back in the 70s when insurance companies would pay for them. They would have a “lifetime maximum” which the facilities would exhaust and then let people go. When insurance companies wised up and stopped the money grab, these grifters turned to a more lucrative business model, treating diseases of the rich, which is what Hollywooders use to babysit their spawn when they become insufferable.


22 posted on 12/23/2025 8:46:55 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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Sometimes rehab is like jail. Some people go to learn how to become a better addict and make connections to get drugs after they leave.


24 posted on 12/23/2025 8:48:30 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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"Evidence of "mitigating factors" accumulating for his defense."

Sob story to make him a victim.

27 posted on 12/23/2025 9:32:23 AM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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"For all the negative that I think it did to me, it also exposed me to a larger demographic of people.”

Prison will be an even better experience.

28 posted on 12/23/2025 9:36:09 AM PST by katana
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“For all the negative that I think it did to me, it also exposed me to a larger demographic of people.”

Yeah, Nick; it’s called cultural enrichment. And without moral teaching, which I doubt he got at a new age rehab, he didn’t have a chance. Probably told him that he was just a good person who got mixed up. Learn some yoga and achieve peace. Rehab has a high failure rate even with Christian or other proper programs. With a new age program, I’m guessing he didn’t have a chance.


29 posted on 12/23/2025 9:52:43 AM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing)T)
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Not my circus. Not my monkey.

Pretty much a worthless human being. Lock him in stir until he croaks.

He had so many opportunities, and blew it all.

31 posted on 12/23/2025 9:59:37 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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The real question is why he was sent to Second Nature in the first place if he wasn’t already an addict.


32 posted on 12/23/2025 10:00:17 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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