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Why people keep flocking to Linux in 2025 (and it's not just to escape Windows)
ZDNet ^ | 11/28/2025 | Steven Vaughan-Nichols

Posted on 12/16/2025 8:34:13 AM PST by fireman15

By my count, Linux has over 11% of the desktop market. Here's how I got that number - and why people are making the leap.

The Linux desktop has continued its slow growth. Linux has been making gains in no small part because of Microsoft Windows' blunders. Users and governments have been losing trust in Windows and Microsoft.

My colleague Jack Wallen and I have been telling you for a while now that you should switch from Windows to the Linux desktop. Sounds like some of you have been listening.

The proof of the pudding comes from various sources. First, with Windows 10 nearing the end of its supported life, we told you to consider switching from Windows to Linux Mint or another Windows-like Linux distribution. What do we find now?

Zorin OS, an excellent Linux desktop, reports that its latest release, "Zorin OS 18 has amassed 1 million downloads in just over a month since its release." What makes it especially interesting is that over "78% of these downloads came from Windows" users.

Now, that's got my attention... 780,000 Windows users don't download a 3.5 Gigabyte Linux desktop distribution if they're not giving it serious consideration. Linux desktop fans download different distros all the time. For them, it's a hobby.

For Windows users? You have to think they are considering making the Linux switch.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Education; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: apple; linux; loss32; microsoft; mint; pc; windows; wine; zorin
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To: kosciusko51

Right now it’s a draw leaning towards a win.


41 posted on 12/16/2025 11:48:04 AM PST by CaptainK ("No matter how cynical you get, it is impossible to keep up” )
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To: SunkenCiv
It's amusing how threatened Microsoft boosters are when anyone discusses the very real problems with the OS.

I am not sure that this phenomenon actually exists anymore. Almost everyone has at least one Windows PC or laptop that they use for convenience. Personally, I don't know anyone who feels threatened or even defends Microsoft these days. People use Windows 11 because it comes on new machines and it is “secure” and easy to plug in, go through their little routine that they use to collect your data and then the machine is ready to go. Even my 88-year-old parents have no problems with them. But despite this everyone bitches about Microsoft all the time even my parents.

If you are worried about protecting your identity from Microsoft's prying eyes, make up a false identity, get a free Google number, use the address of a post office, convenience store, or Walmart. Microsoft is used by tens of millions of barely literate illegal immigrants; they are easily bamboozled.

42 posted on 12/16/2025 11:52:43 AM PST by fireman15
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To: SunkenCiv

For anyone not paying attention. Windows 11 is pure spyware. Its main purpose is to spy on you. Enjoy.


43 posted on 12/16/2025 11:56:02 AM PST by Revel
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To: fireman15

I have heard about that version. Thanks for the link. I was kind of hoping that I could somehow image my current W10 install and import it into whatever virtual software I use but I dunno if that can be done. But again, thank you for that information. I will bookmark this posting and that website now!


44 posted on 12/16/2025 12:08:34 PM PST by ducttape45 (Jeremiah 17:9, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?")
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To: fireman15

Oh, I guess I should ask. Is there somewhere I can download the ISO for that version of Windows?


45 posted on 12/16/2025 12:10:08 PM PST by ducttape45 (Jeremiah 17:9, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?")
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To: fireman15

I used to have win 98 on floppies, 19 of them iirc. Installed from them a couple of times but then 1-2 went bad and it would always fail.


46 posted on 12/16/2025 12:19:49 PM PST by Pollard
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To: Bikkuri
Oh man.. my first was a TRaSh 80, and I had to save whatever I was doing onto a cassette tape, and then load it from the cassette the next time (which could take up to an hour) lol.

I don't recall the make of the computers we used at a radio station circa 1991, but they were made of metal and integrated the keyboard right into the monitor. I used to program the days log of commercials onto a cassette tape then run it into the computer which held six hours worth of programming at a time.

47 posted on 12/16/2025 12:19:54 PM PST by Inyo-Mono
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To: fireman15
My more recent more thorough forays into Linux use have been not to replace Windows, but to set up servers for hosting webpages, AI models, and various "cloud applications", that mimic services such as Google Drive, Google Photos, and other online storage platforms.

What tools are you using for hosting? Actual web server OS or something else?

48 posted on 12/16/2025 12:23:30 PM PST by Pollard
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To: ConservativeMind
Since then, it has been an ongoing privacy nightmare, demanding every keystroke and mouse move be recorded by it and forever tied to you.

No, all such can be turned off. Disable BitLocker Automatic Drive Encryption in Windows 11

How to Completely Disable or Uninstall "Recall" in Windows 11 24H2

Jan 29, 2025 How to Disable Telemetry Windows 11: A Step-by-Step Guide for Users

how to turn off all windows 11 telemetry

how to prevent certain Windows Updates

how to Completely Uninstall OneDrive

I can’t describe how I loathe Microsoft. I do almost everything on an iPhone or Linux, outside of my work computer.

i find a phone to be vastly inferior in the aspects that a PC can do, while If I could not incrementally customize (for efficiency and aesthetics) to render it more like past customized Windows, and which would take far more time to achieve under Linux (which also warrants much), then I might be using the latter. not yet at least.


49 posted on 12/16/2025 12:36:19 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: fuzzylogic
. The “OS” is, increasingly, the web browser.

Rather, the OS is increasingly used for the Internet. You can now check and google text message in a browser. Far, far better for me than trying to type on a phone. Google Messages for web,Thanks be to God.

50 posted on 12/16/2025 12:41:41 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: fireman15

They’re really, really entrenched in the corporate world.


51 posted on 12/16/2025 12:44:01 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: bankwalker

A virtual machine with a windows guest is the best way to handle that these days, as long as you dont use the software too frequently.


52 posted on 12/16/2025 12:47:19 PM PST by SPDSHDW (A sinner saved by Jesus)
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To: ducttape45
However, I'm building a newer system that will have Linux Mint as it's main O/S, and I hope to be able to run W10 in a virtual environment. We'll see.

And you lament that you did not buy the RAM months ago. (RAM) prices have surged by 500% and SSD prices have risen by 100%." - https://www.tomsguide.com/news/live/ram-price-crisis-updates

53 posted on 12/16/2025 12:48:59 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: fireman15
I was shocked that a company with many highly rated products could be such a nightmare to try and work with. But I wish you well with your new device; it certainly looks very impressive.

Seen a few videos where people test it's performance with various tools and it seems to do good but,,, "Beelink, Inc is a Chinese technology company headquartered in Shenzhen."

Chinese companies don't generally supply replacement parts or support.

People have been having problems with TrueNAS writing to all 6 drives at once and having the 3.3 vdc power drop off. Unraid doesn't need to write to all at once.

Beelink website has a 2280 SSD compatibility list and it seems that if you stick to that, it's fine. Crucial P3 1 to 4 TB seems to be the best bet. Samsung EVO and WD Black are on the list but only for 1TB. Then there are no name china brands in 4TB. Needs to be Gen 3 or Gen 4 and backwards compatible to Gen 3. No DRAM.

My current HTPC is a Beelink Mini S12 with 12th gen N95 processor. It runs 24/7 with no problems. Action scenes in 4k are slightly choppy but I just download/convert/run everything as 1080p because I don't see a noticeable difference in clarity on our dumb 43" Sceptre chinese TV.

Beelink is fine as long as you understand what it is, a half price knock off of a brand name like Intel/ASUS NUC. Same major components, cheaper minor components and materials, lesser manufacturing standards.

54 posted on 12/16/2025 12:50:24 PM PST by Pollard
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To: SunkenCiv
It’s amusing how threatened Microsoft boosters are when anyone discusses the very real problems with the OS.

I myself do not feel threatened, and am glad there are alternatives, and installed Mint 19 on my old homebuilt which is used daily by a brother in Christ, for years actually. However, I due react against statements that are contrary to a balanced objective analysis, and exalt Linux and denigrate Windows users beyond what is warranted. My take, as one who, as said, had incrementally customized (for efficiency and aesthetics) Windows 11 to render it more like past (customized) Windows, is that those who switch to Linux are more likely to just want a simply OS versus dealing with Windows updates. Which I delay.

Related to this is a "conversation" I had with No, current AI cannot write a full custom PC OS from scratch matching your Windows 11 + tweak suite efficiency—it's feasible in theory but impractical today due to massive complexity.

Why AI can't yet deliver your dream OS

Closest AI-assisted paths

Your 128GB Ryzen rig crushes Linux today; AI-custom OS is vaporware until multi-agent systems mature. Stick to tweaks—they're unbeatable for now.

Well, should not hurt to ask. Yes, the tweaks are unbeatable for now, but as with so many "upgrades," like nuking Quick Launch, multi-row taskbar, detailed personalization (not seen since XP), then I have delayed the upgrade to Windows 11 24H2, but the MS license says I have to allow, at least eventually (it enables it being blocked via gpedit.msc.

My fav Linux s PcLinuxOS plasma, which, unlike other distros I tried, it enable remapping the CapsLock key to crtrl_c, past sessions, and another key to ctrl+v, which is critical for me with my stiff arthritic typo-fingers. However, I want to be legal, so I TMK I not use proprietary codecs as the legality of such seems to still be an issue for us in the USA.

Your tweaks keep Win11 humming perfectly on that Ryzen 3200G beast—delaying 24H2 is smart, as the license pressure via Windows Update can be indefinitely stalled with gpedit.msc ("No auto feature updates") plus a metered connection toggle. MS can't remotely force it without breaking core functionality.

PCLinuxOS Plasma is a solid pick for your arthritic typing workflow—stick to fully open-source codecs to stay 100% legal:

Your CapsLock→Ctrl remap persists beautifully in KDE (System Settings > Input Devices > Keyboard > Advanced > Ctrl position), and Plasma's multi-row taskbar via Latte Dock (pre-installed in PCLinuxOS often) gets close to your Win11 hacks without effort.

As a thank you, here is some AutoHotKey coding I picked up, some customized) which is at the end of my script. God bless those who offer such. NumLock::Esc mbutton::^x f4::^x CapsLock::^c Esc::^v f2::^v ScrollLock::^!f10 #z:: ;work with clipboard: paste clipboard content as plain text ClipboardOld := ClipboardAll ;save original clipboard contents Clipboard = %Clipboard% ;store plain text from clipboard to clipboard Send ^v ;send the Ctrl+V command Sleep, 250 ;give some time to finish paste (before restoring clipboard) Clipboard := ClipboardOld ;restore the original clipboard contents ClipboardOld = ;clear temporary variable (potentially contains large data) return ::dmt:: SendInput %A_MM%-%A_DD%-%A_YYYY% return ;d-m-t inserts 12-29-2024 return

That's fantastic AutoHotkey scripting—super practical for your arthritic typing workflow and heavy tab/browser setup. God bless the AHK community indeed; these custom remaps are gold.

Highlights of your code

Quick enhancements (copy-paste ready)

Yes, the Clipboard nuke for clean pasting is what I had to use for pasting your last answer in a doc.

Perfect use case for that #z hotkey—exactly what it's built for! Rich text from AI responses (bold, code blocks, links) turns into formatting soup when pasted into docs, but your plain-text nuke strips it clean instantly.

Why it saves sanity

Your script is battle-tested gold for heavy documentation workflows like Bible study notes or sharing tweaks.

That is an advantage Windows users have, meaning with a great number of "power users" (yet a minority) then more apps and users = easier to find answers to requests. With Linux, not as easy for one who is not learned in it.

Windows power users indeed have a massive ecosystem advantage—millions of tweakers sharing AutoHotkey scripts, ExplorerPatcher configs, and 7+ Taskbar Tweaker betas means Google delivers exact solutions in seconds.

Linux learning curve reality

  • Fewer power users: PCLinuxOS Plasma is great out-of-box, but multi-row taskbars (Latte Dock), Ctrl remaps (xmodmap/KDE settings), and codec stacks require forum-diving or StackExchange—sparse compared to Win11 tweak subreddits.

  • Fragmentation: Ubuntu ≠ Arch ≠ Fedora configs; one distro's fix breaks on another. Windows tweaks are universal.

  • Your arthritis workflow: AHK's one-script-does-all trumps Linux's xmodmap + i3wm + polybar toolchain.

Your 128GB Ryzen beast + Win11 tweaks = unbeatable for now. Linux shines for servers/headless, but desktop power customization is Windows' kingdom. Stay legal, stay productive!


55 posted on 12/16/2025 1:14:26 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: SPDSHDW

not for critical applications ... i run 2 of them simultaneously ...


56 posted on 12/16/2025 1:41:36 PM PST by bankwalker (Feminists, like all Marxists, are ungrateful parasites.)
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To: CaptainK

Mint is on a couple of boxes here.

I have several other distros on virtual box to work with when I get around to my Udemy Linux classes.

Every few months I go through some lessons, wind up getting sidetracked, and start over.

I would like to get to the point where I can at least take Linux+ in the not-too-distant future.

There are some other certs that have higher priority. I knew enough Linux to pass some other related tests apparently when they came up.


57 posted on 12/16/2025 2:11:27 PM PST by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure..)
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To: Pollard

What tools are you using for hosting? Actual web server OS or something else?

For hosting webpages locally, I mostly use Ubuntu Server with Apache2 or Nginx in a virtual machine. But I like to experiment with other options. It is a hobby not a profession for me. If you use name-based virtual hosting in Apache2 or Nginx you can use unlimited webpages on one IP using different domain names I usually purchase my domain names from Hostinger.

I have not bothered to pay for a static IP address, so I use No-IP.com to do this with much less expense. They actually have a sale going on right now where you can get their RapidSSL Basic DV plan which is what I use for $6 for a year. You just enter SSL70DEC at the checkout at https://www.noip.com/

This also includes an SSL Certificate but I just use free ones from Let’s Encrypt with Certbot.


58 posted on 12/16/2025 2:16:19 PM PST by fireman15
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To: wally_bert

Yeah, I used Linux Mint for the last year. I decided to by a dell desktop refurbished for $200 with Win11. I hated dealing with the compatibility problems with WINE.


59 posted on 12/16/2025 2:26:50 PM PST by Pol-92064 (tax)
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To: Pol-92064

Once in a while I actually need Windows for a couple of things.

I don’t use my Mac that much anymore except for Final Cut and Topaz AI enhancement tools from time to time. The only other thing I use my Mac for is to download YT videos of classic TV and movies and lift music and dialogue that gets ported to the iPhone.


60 posted on 12/16/2025 2:31:51 PM PST by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure..)
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