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Douglas Macgregor: NATO IS DEAD – Empire of Lies Just COLLAPSED
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Posted on 11/29/2025 1:14:14 AM PST by ganeemead

NATO/EU/eurowanker house of cards falling apart...


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1 posted on 11/29/2025 1:14:14 AM PST by ganeemead
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To: ganeemead

Ugh, more propaganda from that fat-faced, bellowing blowhard. Tell us again the Russian invasion of Ukraine would be over in two weeks, Dougie.


2 posted on 11/29/2025 1:18:55 AM PST by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой)
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3 posted on 11/29/2025 1:24:10 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: ganeemead
"Before the invasion of Ukraine, there was not much of a threat against Ukraine from Russia"... except, of course, the fact that Ukraine gave up the #3 nuclear arsenal in exchange for promises from the US of protection should Russia ever invade... which Obama and Biden both ignored, of course.

Yeah, not one indicator of a threat AT ALL!!!

SMH

4 posted on 11/29/2025 1:30:57 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: ganeemead

Isn’t this the guy that kept telling us every time the mud froze that Ukraine was doomed? Or was it every time the ground thawed? I think it was both…


5 posted on 11/29/2025 3:59:07 AM PST by rhinohunter (I don’t know if God is a Republican, but I am metaphysically certain that satan is a democrat)
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To: Teacher317

And russia has given sovereignty guarantees as well, so much for their word


6 posted on 11/29/2025 4:14:19 AM PST by blitz128
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To: ganeemead
No description or summary given—just a title. No text to read.

A 39 minute video of people no one knows.

Cruddy Free Republic posters do this.

Ganeemead: “Trust me—I'm worth wasting 39 minutes of your life over”

7 posted on 11/29/2025 4:41:10 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Here is a AI summary of the video so I can save 39 mins of your life.

The speaker presents the view that the Western narrative surrounding the war in Ukraine is collapsing and that political leaders in the United States and Europe can no longer maintain public support for what he considers a failed strategy. He argues that Ukraine’s military situation has deteriorated to the point of near-disintegration, with rising surrender rates, collapsing morale, and internal political tensions that may threaten the Zelensky government. According to him, this unraveling exposes what he calls an “empire of lies” constructed by Western elites to justify the war.

He believes that ongoing Western discussions about deterrence, peace plans, or long-term strategy are detached from battlefield realities. In his view, the conflict is already effectively ending in Russia’s favor, making many proposed diplomatic or military solutions irrelevant. He asserts that the war could have been avoided through an Austrian-style neutrality arrangement for Ukraine, which he describes as the most rational early solution.

The speaker claims that European governments—especially in Germany, the UK, and France—are escalating hostile rhetoric toward Russia, not because they expect or desire a real war, but because they are trying to justify their own political survival. He argues that European publics show no willingness to fight Russia, citing the absence of volunteerism. He predicts that this disconnect between leaders and voters will result in major political change across Europe as the war’s outcome becomes undeniable.

He further suggests that European states are increasingly more likely to deport Ukrainian men back to Ukraine than to mobilize for war with Russia. He speculates that Ukrainian diaspora populations could include individuals who may attempt retributive violence in Europe, which he believes would accelerate deportation pressures. The eventual post-war future of Ukraine, he argues, may involve substantial territorial losses or fragmentation, possibly along lines proposed by Russian officials.

Regarding NATO and the European Union, the speaker asserts that both institutions are entering a period of irreversible decline. He contends that NATO no longer represents a unified strategic vision and that differing regional interests within Europe will lead to the emergence of smaller, regional security blocs. He emphasizes that Americans do not live in Europe and that Europeans must ultimately assume responsibility for their own security. He references Charles de Gaulle and Dwight Eisenhower to argue that the U.S. should not permanently lead European defense policy. He sees the EU as similarly unstable due to internal economic and cultural strains.

Turning to the United States, the speaker draws a sharp distinction between ordinary Americans and what he describes as a wealthy, globally-oriented elite class. Most Americans, he says, have limited knowledge of or interest in NATO and largely question the purpose of U.S. troop deployments in Europe. He portrays the political system in Washington as dominated by financial interests, informal advisors, and donor-driven policy rather than national strategic considerations. He criticizes both parties for failing to prioritize domestic economic well-being and for pursuing foreign interventions that offer little benefit to Americans.

The speaker concludes that the war in Ukraine reveals the end of the post-Cold-War unipolar order. He argues that NATO’s inability to achieve its goals in Ukraine signifies a broader decline of U.S. global dominance. As economic pressures rise, he expects mounting domestic backlash against foreign commitments and greater internal instability within the United States. Overall, he describes the West as being on the verge of major political and institutional transformation, driven by the disintegration of what he repeatedly calls the “empire of lies” that has sustained Western foreign policy since the end of the Cold War.


8 posted on 11/29/2025 4:59:45 AM PST by pterional
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To: ConservativeMind

I do see and agree with your point. Many here on FR seemingly make FR their life and read or watch each and every tidbit, making a day out of it. There also appears to be competition as to who can make the first post, which often leads to posts that are difficult to read due to typos. That’s fine, I don’t care.

What I do care about is when they bellyache when someone like you and me complain about a poorly posted article. Many of us have lives beyond FR and our time is precious. I use FR as a news source, not a full time job. I too do not have time to sift through poorly posted articles.


9 posted on 11/29/2025 5:48:29 AM PST by redfreedom (They’re AWFUL...Affuent White Female Urban Leftists)
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To: ganeemead

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10 posted on 11/29/2025 6:35:37 AM PST by sauropod
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To: redfreedom

What you said - and a lot more, but I don’t have the time to present my thoughts on crap postings. I’ll just go back to what I’ve said for a long time - that 98.5% of postings here are a waste of time. You need to be patient and learn to get through the BS because there are a lot of very smart people here at FR with much knowledge.

Take your time, be patient, and you’ll prolly learn something.

Did “bloggers” even exist back in ‘97?


11 posted on 11/29/2025 8:33:37 AM PST by 1FreeAmerican
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To: ganeemead

It was great news if NATO would die and we could be free of the dead weight of the EU countries in it.


12 posted on 11/29/2025 9:20:57 AM PST by Kazan
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To: pterional

It’s a very odd position for McGregor and others to take -

The “post-Cold War unipolar order” he’s talking about refers to the international system created after the fall of the Soviet Union.

The USA emerged as the sole global superpower with unparalleled economic, military, and political influence, until China and Russia started asserting themselves.

The EU didn’t even attempt to join the club, and mooched off of NATO for years. But NATO in Europe wasn’t starting wars - NATO in Europe was largely complementing American adventures.

The way people on this thread are talking, you’d think that the USA leaving NATO would leave a toxic element in EU-NATO that will either implode or be attacked by Russia - and America will be left alone.

That’s not really how it works. If Russia hadn’t had the backing of other countries like North Korea, Syria and Iran, the Special Military Operation would’ve failed spectacularly in the first 2 years. The middle classes of Muscovy are quite happy to send the yokels from distant republics into the meat grinder, but sending their own kids into it? Not so much.

You can only have a “sphere of influence” if you have willing allies - and the more the USA burns its bridges with its allies, the more difficult it’ll be for America to hold on to its interests overseas.


13 posted on 11/29/2025 9:57:38 AM PST by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe" - Holmes to Watson, A Scandal in Bohemia)
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To: pterional

Thank you!


14 posted on 11/29/2025 10:41:55 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: pterional

Thanks. Which tool have you used to get that summary ?


15 posted on 11/29/2025 12:52:56 PM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: ganeemead

Collapsed *again.*

Same source, same poster, same nonsense.


16 posted on 11/29/2025 4:24:08 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: pterional

His typical anti-American, anti-Western rants.

He’s always been wrong before, then throws the same stuff at the wall time and time again.

Just hoping one of these times one tidbit of what he claims will end up being true, then he and his allies can triumphantly proclaim he was “right all along”, then repeat the cycle and use that to claim “his predictions have always been right in the past!”


17 posted on 11/29/2025 4:28:52 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Apparatchik

Excellent assessment !


18 posted on 11/29/2025 9:18:00 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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