Posted on 11/24/2025 1:08:38 PM PST by CDR Kerchner
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To put in mildly, Dr. Lakin was naive. He refused his orders because he did not think that Obama was legitimately the US president.
That might be so. But no way would such an argument ever be accepted by the Defense Department. That means Dr. Lakin was on a suicide mission. And for what?
I suppose Dr. Larkin can claim a moral victory here. But in reality he only hurt himself, and changed nothing. Sort of like a private complaining about Hitler.
To my knowledge, and as of this day 11/24/25, Barrack Obama is recognized as the 2008 and 2012 election winner.
It is not within the scope or job description of military officers or enlisted to question that determination and act upon the decision to miss an obligation like a deployment because you think differently than the congressional decision.
It was a direct order to deploy and he missed it because he was guessing something was wrong with the determination Obama was not president. He deserved the jail time as if he was going to prove Obama’s serving as wrong, he would have had to do it before the date he was ordered to deploy. Other wise, he is failing within the UCMJ article 86 failure to go and article 92 failure to obey a direct order. And if he did it today, he still would be in failure to follow the UCMJ.
wy69
One day a friend of mine asked if my teenage daughter wanted a job transcribing some notes.
After her first day I asked about it. She said it was hard because the writer was some doctor and soldier who was in prison and had to write with a rubber pencil.
I said “you’re transcribing Terry Lakin’s prison diaries?”
She said that was his name.
Turns out that my friend was on Col Lakin’s defense team and was publishing the diaries to the defense website.
My daughter also babysat a few times for the Lakin’s and we met them once or twice.
An honorable man who clearly deserves a pardon.
Correct
If Lakin is still alive, maybe someone should ask for a pardon & reinstatement of benefits.
Perhaps I’m missing the plot.
On the one hand, plenty of people have real doubts about Obama’s birth certificate. But, let’s face it, he lived in the White House for 8 years. That ship has sailed. He’s in the history books as president. Maybe at some point in the future those books will be re-written, but it hasn’t happened yet.
On the other hand, a military officer was issued orders to show up for duty. And he didn’t. That’s bad. It’s always bad.
If his commander had ordered him to rape women and kill children, I’d have a lot more sympathy. But he was told to show up for deployment. And he just didn’t. That’s not OK. I don’t see any way to glorify that action.
In a previous administration a large number of G.I.s were dishonorably discharged without benefits for disobeying illegal orders to change their DNA.
All orders must be presumed to be legal. Your only options are to obey the order or resign your commission. You, as the one receiving the order, can’t question it’s legitimacy until you do one or the other. It’s like having standing to bring a case to Court.
No, these things happened because he failed to be in his appointed place of duty. He deserted. It is not the place for military members to question the results of an election, or the eligibility of an elected official.
Ping for when I’m not on a phone
No. He was court martial led for merely asking them not allowed to present a defense.
Not trying to be argumentative because I too question the location of Barack Obama’s birth, but it seems to me he was Courts Martialed for missing movement.
His defense referring to the circumstances related to Obama’s election don’t have any bearing on his deployment orders.
Therefore, any defense reference to Obama’s installment to the office of President is not relevant to the deployment and thus was not allowed.
I guess he was willing to fall on his sword over the issue but when they would not answer his question and if he wanted to maintain his pension he should have deployed and continued the requests for verification as he was assigned to new commands over the course of the deployment and remainder of his time in service while Barack Obama was still President. The question would become moot once either of their status changed.
I doubt if he had deployed that he would have been brought up on charges.
All the above is my opinion based on the very limited info we have here.
Thank you.
My friend who was close to him is now deceased but as I recall, he tried to follow chain of command by asking his superior officers if it was a legit order. He was not given the chance to back off and deploy. He was simply arrested and prosecuted.
I believe it would have been his third deployment.
“To my knowledge, and as of this day 11/24/25, Barrack Obama is recognized as the 2008 and 2012 election winner.”
Elections mean nothing the state’s could not do a public election and instead send delegates from their respective state houses of legislature to cast directly the electoral college ballots. Nowhere in the constitution does it say the state’s must hold a public vote. It does say the state’s must send electoral college ballots to D.C. By the fourth Wednesday in December.
This was the last electoral college cycle dates and all that matters because it’s electoral college who actually elects POTUS on behalf of their respective state’s. Again there is no requirements for a general public election at all the state could delegate it 100% too their legislatures.
[December 17, 2024: Electors meet in their respective state capitals (and in D.C.) to cast their votes for President and Vice President. They sign, seal, and certify six sets of electoral votes (Certificates of Ascertainment and Certificates of Vote).
December 25, 2024: This is the deadline for the President of the Senate (the Vice President of the United States) and the Archivist of the United States to receive the electoral votes from all states.
January 6, 2025: A joint session of Congress is held to officially count the electoral votes. The Vice President presides over the count and announces the results. ]
Obama won the electoral college twice that’s all that matters. The USSC chose not to get involved with his NBC status and thus he was and always will be the valid winner of the process to elect a POTUS. The USSC is never going to rule his birth invalid no matter how packed the Court got not that the GOP has the stones to pack a court like the Dems certainly will the next time they get all three branches. They will go nuclear in the Senate again something the coward GOP won’t do and pack the Court for sure they are not playing anymore.
So this guy had no legs to stand on regardless of if the cert is fake the people in charge of enforcing that said no we are not going to rule one way or another.
Regardless, I will forever refer to Obama as "the Resident" as he was Constitutionally unqualified foreign born. Biden is "Pretend-esident" because he lost the vote in a landslide that's still being covered up. But they both served as Presidents because the machinery of government required it.
He was charged and convicted at court martial on three counts of disobeying orders (when ordered by his superior to report), one count of dereliction of duty and one count of missing movement. He was allowed to present a defense, but was not allowed to challenge the eligibility of POTUS. Allowing any servicemember to challenge the authority of POTUS would be ridiculous, and create chaos and widespread insubordination.
I can’t challenge your version of events and I certainly wish things had gone differently.
I simply can compare it to my Navy time.
You get your orders, report to the command.
Depending on the timing and whether you are filling a billet with an already deployed unit you travel to meet them or you leave with them.
Your orders in the Navy come from BUPERS (Bureau of Personnel) removed a few steps from the POTUS. The mechanics of it might be different for officers than for enlisted.
I guess my question is how on his 3rd deployment did he make the leap that this assignment was not a legal order.
The timing just feels odd, I will have to do more research until then.
I’m sorry it just doesn’t add up to me.
I hope his sentence has run and that he is out and has moved on.
I think a pardon would be nice but I think the chances are pretty slim.
Please be well.
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