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Analysis of the coming competition between Starlink and Bezos' Leo in satellite internet. Despite what JCristina is saying, I don't see Amazon Leo giving much a serious competition to Musk's Starlink.
1 posted on 11/21/2025 1:53:31 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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Commiezon is Evil.
2 posted on 11/21/2025 1:58:39 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (It's like somebody just put the Constitution up on a wall …. and shot the First Amendment -Mike Rowe)
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Rather than wading through a video of ? length, where is the breakdown in cost in print. Otherwise, it is another Click Bait of my time.


3 posted on 11/21/2025 2:00:17 PM PST by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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I’m stuck with Spectrum, and its price is atrocious.
I have cable 1g... they keep bumping the price :^/ Now it is right at $100/month. Stumbles all the time (internet lag, dropped connection).

I had fiber-optic in Japan for $40/month starting around 2004, that was much faster and smoother, no hiccups.


4 posted on 11/21/2025 2:00:46 PM PST by Bikkuri
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I have Starlink. There’s 10 devices on it. 6 phones, 2 computers, 2 gaming computers. I’ve never had a problem. Even when it’s snowing. We had the business plan with Consolidated Communications. $135. It was down more than it was up, especially when it came time for payroll. I always sweated payroll. Even told family members to get off so I could do payroll. with Starlink, it’s a breeze.
I’ll never go back to land based internet. I’ll starve first.


8 posted on 11/21/2025 2:14:40 PM PST by lucky american (Had enough yet?)
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I wish I could get internet. Using a phone is no fun.


9 posted on 11/21/2025 2:19:01 PM PST by BipolarBob (These violent delights have violent ends.)
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ATT just increased their price to $82/month. Constant buffering, especially on Fox news channel. How much is Star link?


11 posted on 11/21/2025 2:24:24 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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Currently have Ziply Fiber dsl over copper at 40/6 mbps. Works mostly all the time for $91/month. A local fiber company can deliver 500/500 mbps for $65. They’re waiting for permit from Avista Power.


12 posted on 11/21/2025 2:25:57 PM PST by Noumenon (They killed the guy who just wanted to talk. Now... now they've got me. KTF)
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We live in a congested area where Starlink is the only option. We require two dishes at $120/month each ($240/month total) since we have ten people using it (6 kids, my parents, me and the wife that both work from home).

Our area now has a congestion fee of $1,000 per account for anyone now wanting to get the service ($1400 all in). When we bought our two (Gen 2 and Gen 3 dishes) they were $750 out the door each and self-install when we purchased them a few years ago. That $1500 investment has been well worth it.

If I were new to the area, I’d pay the $1k congestion fee in a heartbeat since the only other options are fixed wireless with 25/3 max service. When LEO gets up and running, I’ll subscribe to that too and decide then which service becomes my failover. We are never getting fiber here. Heck, we can’t even get landline service here anymore, so fiber ain’t ever coming to my corner of rural North Idaho.


16 posted on 11/21/2025 2:37:43 PM PST by The Unknown Republican
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I looked at Starlink, even subscribed, I have the system leaning up on my sofa. Unfortunately, I discovered that it won’t work for me.

I you have more than 10% obstruction of the sky where you want to put the antenna, Starlink says that you will not have a reliable satelite connection for simple web surfing. You need no more than 5% obstruction for reliable on-line gaming.

I have 9.98% obstruction, at best. Two people in my household do on-line gaming, so it won’t work.


17 posted on 11/21/2025 2:41:22 PM PST by jimtorr
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Starlink was great. i used it for few months. However they are not very tolerant of torrent downloads. My grandson came over and downloaded some movies via torrent and even though he used a vpn they still detected it. I was basically banned from using Starlink ever again. They won’t even allow the equipment I have to be resold to anyone else. I have no problem with all this but I think Starlink and Musk are in a hard spot. I’ll be they have Hollywood coming in hot and heavy against them when this happens and this is probably the safest way to avoid really expensive lawsuits and fines.


18 posted on 11/21/2025 2:42:57 PM PST by DouglasKC
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Fun Factoid

Amazon’s Kuiper, now called LEO, had bargained, negotiated with several launch providers to place the LEO satellites in orbit. The Amazon Board decided to not even consider the least expensive and most reliable launch provider on the planet. Yes, SpaceX. The Amazon Stockholders found out and protested. SpaceX ended up launching three times for Amazon.

The latest reuse record for a Falcon 9 first stage is 31 launches.


25 posted on 11/21/2025 2:47:00 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try )
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We have dual ISPs load balanced... Spectrum Cable (1gbps symmetrical) and ATT Fiber (1gbps symmetrical)... Load balanced through a Firewalla Gold+.... Internet is always up.... Each ISP is roughly $85 a month.


26 posted on 11/21/2025 2:47:24 PM PST by TexasGunLover
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Out in the country, only DSL or 5G.

Have T-Mobile WIFI 5G Bridge (hot spot) for an amazing $50/mo. and it’s blazing. Always almost 100mbps and sometimes 500mbps!

For a country rural home that was DSL, this is a dream.

100mbps was T-1 speed when I was VP of an internet company 25 years ago....


35 posted on 11/21/2025 3:12:05 PM PST by Arlis
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I was going to switch to Starlink but here in Dallas it is a “High Demand” area.

The deal they are offering everyone for 49.00 to start and the usual monthly... is $900.00 for me to JUST to get the equipment to the front door.

They are also sending out installers for the 49.00 deal.

When I saw how much they wanted from me ($900.00) it became clear that they are financing the 49.00 deal with all the money from the “High Demand” folks ($900.00).

I sent an email about it, got a “sorry, it’s policy.”

I replied that communism really is NOT the way to go and a LOT of folks will hear about this.

...no answer...

Why am I just totally not surprised?

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37 posted on 11/21/2025 3:16:59 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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