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UN Targets Homeschoolers Through “Human Rights” Scheme
The New American ^ | November 10, 2025 | Alex Newman

Posted on 11/16/2025 9:23:31 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

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The United Nations is once again attacking homeschoolers in an attempt to control the education of youth to embrace collectivism, climate hysteria, social-emotional learning, and globalism, explains Alex Newman for The New American’s Behind The Deep State. 

A new UNESCO report, prepared under the supervision of a literal North Korean totalitarian, explains that homeschooling, if not done by the UN’s standards, can violate a student’s “human rights.” Therefore, all forms of education must be viewed through a “rights-based” lens.

This invasion of parental rights and educational freedom must be taken seriously, Newman said. The UN’s efforts to control the education of our children must be resisted once and for all.


Grok Summary of podcast:


Summary of Alex Newman's "Behind the Deep State" EpisodeCore Claim: The United Nations, via a new UNESCO report titled Homeschooling Through a Human Rights Lens (released last month), is openly targeting homeschooling, private schools, and parental rights worldwide. Governments must regulate or ban these if they don't align with UN-defined "human rights," which prioritize state control over God-given or parental rights.Key Points from the Report (as Cited by Newman):Notable Details:Newman's Counterarguments:Call to Action: Resist via Congress; Trump admin exiting UNESCO, but threat persists. Read the report on UN site; check NewAmerican.com articles. Homeschooling/private education is under existential attack—future of liberty depends on defending parental rights against "Deep State" and UN agendas.

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Folks, the United Nations is coming for your homeschool. It's coming for your private school. It's coming for your parental rights, and they have now said it openly and officially.

I wish I was kidding. I've only been warning about it for 15 years, but it is here now. They're openly telling you that you will not be able to educate your own children in the way that you think they ought to be educated.

Instead, you will have to obey your overlords and do what they think should be taught. Welcome to Behind the Deep State. I am your host, Alex Newman, senior editor at The New American Magazine.

It's always such an honor and a privilege and a pleasure to spend a little bit of time with you. So thank you so much for joining us today. Folks, for 15 years, I've been warning about the UN's evil agenda to take over every facet of our lives.

And in recent years, I've been warning people about their plan to come after homeschooling and private schools. I first noticed what was happening in Sweden about 15 years ago, and we'll talk about that. But all those warnings have now come to fruition.

So just last month, the United Nations put a giant target on the backs of homeschool families all around the world. They released an incredible report. I mean, you almost can't imagine that it's real until you read it right on the UN's website.

It came out of UNESCO. The UN Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization. But it's called Homeschooling Through a Human Rights Lens.

And if you've paid attention to this program for the years we've been doing it, you know, I've warned you about the UN's understanding of human rights. It is radically different than the American understanding of God-given rights that are unalienable. Life, liberty, property, the pursuit of happiness.

And so in this UN document, they claim that to uphold and protect the human rights of children, governments must, if they allow homeschooling at all, take total control over what's happening. They must regulate it. They must enforce mandatory home visits.

They must do mandatory testing. They must force families to teach government-approved, UN-approved education content. It must teach the values that the UN desires and so much more.

They actually say that homeschoolers must use the education standards that the government has approved. They need accountability measures so that we are accountable to government rather than to God. And folks are calling for mandatory registration of all homeschoolers as if we were sex offenders.

They're calling for forced evaluations of homeschoolers. They're calling for compulsory home visits where a government bureaucrat will show up at your house to determine whether you are doing what the UN thinks you ought to be doing. And again, even the education content that you use in your homeschool must be in line with the UN.

So when you look at this report, right at the very beginning, there's an interesting page where they give the acknowledgments. We'll talk a little bit about that today. But the first thing that really jumped out at me was the fact that it was prepared under the supervision of an individual called Cheng Guangchou.

I think that's how you pronounce his name. He's identified as the chief of the UNESCO section of education policy. Very interesting.

I looked him up because I was not familiar with him. Turns out, and again, this sounds like a parody, but it's actually true. This guy is from the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, better known as North Korea.

He got his degree in education from a North Korean brainwash camp masquerading as a university. And then he went to go work for the indoctrination ministry, masquerading as an education ministry. And of course, if you're familiar with North Korea, they actually operate what is probably the most Orwellian, the most demonic, the most comprehensive system of indoctrination ever devised by man.

I mean, it's actually at the point where they have convinced these poor slaves in North Korea that Kim Jong-un is practically the messiah. I mean, he practically walks on water. He is worshipped.

He is the leader of everything. And so this is the guy, Jang Gwang-chol, who they thought should supervise the production of this report. Now, you can imagine the dictator of North Korea, a mass murderer who has slaughtered untold numbers of people, starved his people to death.

They literally murder children for the crimes or alleged crimes of their parents. Hard to fathom a more evil regime. And so you're probably not surprised that this report was prepared under that supervision.

But as you read this report, it'll become very clear that this is kind of the model that they want for the world, right? Everything must be done by government for the benefit of government through the United Nations. And anyone that refuses is violating the human rights of children. And I could read you quotes from this report.

I mean, there's some really obvious ones. Here's one says governments must implement oversight mechanisms such as registration and evaluations. They also call on government to develop more regulatory capacity.

In other words, the means to develop the regulations and then the means to enforce the regulations. They say in the report, as homeschooling continues to evolve, adopting a rights based approach becomes crucial. They say that they need to do this to enforce the need for quality education.

And that can only be established and defined by the UN through established minimum education standards and accountability. They make very, very clear throughout this report that even the material that is taught must be in line with what the UN is demanding. In this report, for example, they say that the educational content provided through homeschooling must be aligned with the aim of education set out by the Convention on the Rights of the Child.

Now, here's an interesting stopping point. OK, folks, the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child has never been ratified by the U.S. government, which, of course, they actually admit in this report that we have not ratified this, although they call on us to do so. If you're not familiar with this document, there's a very clear reason why our Senate has refused to ratify this thing.

One is it requires all decisions for children to be made in what the report or what the convention describes as the best interest of the child. Well, here's the catch. The best interest of the child will be defined by the government, by the bureaucrats, not by the parents.

When this atrocity was implemented in Scotland, I did a big article about this for the New American, the Scottish Parliament actually passed a law and they said to implement the Convention on the Rights of the Child, they specifically said that was the purpose of this legislation. They actually assigned what they described as a named person in this bill who is supposed to oversee the development and the upbringing of every child from zero to 18 to make sure that child is being raised in accordance with the demands of your overlords at the UN and in the government. So going back to the report, they say part of the key considerations for having education content that lines up with the Convention on the Rights of the Child is to make sure that homeschooling, and I'm quoting here, fosters child wellbeing.

And to do this, they have to be exposed to it, as it says here, mandatory exposure to cultural diversity. And by cultural diversity, if you're not familiar with the UN, that means LGBT stuff, that means the globalism, that means the feminism, that means the UN agenda. The UNESCO report also claims that there are concerns that persist about the supposed lack of exposure to diverse perspectives and potential effects on social cohesion.

And this is very clear what they mean, folks. We'll get to this in a moment. We did some reporting on this for The New American just recently.

The UN actually had, they deployed their special rapporteur on the human right to education to the United States just recently. And one of the big complaints, there were many, but one of the big ones was that children are not getting enough exposure to LGBT ideology, to critical race theory, to the race mongering. They said that is absolutely unacceptable and government must act to remedy that.

And if you read the report that was put out by the UN special rapporteur on the right to education, and you can see my article about that at the newamerican.com. She's very upset. Her name is Farida Shahid, she's from Pakistan. She's very upset with states like Florida, with states like Texas, because we have passed laws in those states trying to protect children from the LGBT ism, from the race mongering.

She said in her final report attacking the United States as censorship laws, restricting classroom discussions on race, gender identity and other divisive concepts limit students access to critical knowledge. How protecting eight year olds from gender confusion is limiting students access to critical knowledge is a mystery to anybody who has their thinking cap on. Is it critical that eight year old children believe that you could be born in the wrong body, that castration is the solution to the alleged problem of being born in the wrong body? Well, according to the UN, children have a human right to this foolishness.

OK, the UN report goes on to say that children need to be taught UN approved values like global citizenship. It's right in the UNESCO report on homeschooling. Global citizenship must be taught to children.

Also, respect for diversity and so much more. The report also says that governments must, and I'm quoting here, promote the development of respect for the UN Charter. If you're not familiar with the UN Charter, you should be.

It's kind of like the UN's constitution. And if you're not familiar with the history, you also should be. Of course, the governments of the world came together in the aftermath of World War Two in San Francisco.

And the document was actually written by a bunch of government agents, Joseph Stalin sent his team over here, and then we had our team. You might remember Alger Hiss, most Americans are not familiar with Alger Hiss, but Alger Hiss was supposed to be an American, supposed to be a representative of America. Well, they liked him so much, they made him the chairman of the conference that wrote the UN Charter, then they made him the first secretary general of the UN.

And then he was prosecuted by actually Richard Nixon and thrown in prison because he was an agent for Joseph Stalin. He was literally a spy for Joseph Stalin. So why governments must ensure that children have respect for the UN Charter is a mystery to me.

I don't think children ought to have respect for the UN Charter. In fact, I think just the opposite. They ought to analyze it critically and say, wait a minute here.

This was written by commies. This infringes on the national sovereignty of the United States. This purports to give the United Nations the authority to deploy the American military into wars that were not declared by Congress, which is a flagrant violation of the constitution.

So just on those things alone, children should not be developing respect for the UN Charter. But UN is claiming that under international agreements, all governments must promote among children the development of respect for the UN Charter. They call for comprehensive sexuality education that shapes children's attitudes and values in line with those being pushed by the UN.

And folks, if you are familiar with this, it's really gross. Back in 2018, UNESCO released its international technical guidance on sexuality education. And they called for teaching children things that I cannot repeat here.

They called for, I can actually give you some of what they were teaching. I mean, it's almost unbelievable. Some of it would get in big trouble if we were to actually say it publicly, because you could have your FCC license pulled if you say these things on the radio or on a television broadcast, but they call for teaching five-year-olds things that are simply an abomination.

All right. I want to read you a little bit from here. So again, this was released in 2018.

It's called International Technical Guidance on Sexuality Education, an evidence-informed approach. They cite Planned Parenthood, by the way, 20 times as the source of this evidence. And they said that by age five, and I'm quoting from the report, children must be able to define gender and biological sex and describe how they are different.

In other words, transgenderism for five-year-olds. Okay. Also by age five, children must develop respect for homosexual parenting.

By age nine, children need to be able to describe responses to sexual activities. And I can't even say some of this stuff because it's so bad. By age nine, they need to demonstrate respect for diverse practices related to sexuality, by which they mean, yes, every perversion that you can imagine.

By age nine, children need to be able to explain how someone's gender identity may not match their biological sex. By age 12, they need to understand that sodomy is pleasurable. So folks, this is the kind of stuff the UN is demanding your children be taught, even in homeschooling.

And they claim that your child has a human right to be taught this kind of filthy, filthy perversion. And by the way, they are very clear that if you do not teach these things to your children, you are hurting your children. You are violating their human rights to education.

Now, there of course has been a lot of studies. There's been a lot of research into homeschooling for 40 years now. The good folks over at the National Home Education Research Institute track this stuff and you can find it online.

And what it has found is that homeschoolers consistently do far better than government school students academically and socially and in every other way. They score on average far higher, even on the government's own standardized tests, than the victims of the government schools. And so the UN report actually just dismisses all of this, 40 years of research and studies and data, with one sentence.

They say that there were supposedly methodological flaws and so we really don't know anything about homeschooling, so governments need to get more involved. That's a total lie. That's a total lie.

They're getting their information from places like the Coalition for Responsible Home Education, which is a radical, radical group trying to bring about regulation on homeschoolers. They're getting their ideas from the Johns Hopkins University Homeschool Hub, created by people who really are globalists, establishment players for the actual purpose of pretending to be a voice for homeschooling and trying to displace great people like the National Home Education Research Institute. Now, I want to talk a little bit about the parental rights angle here, because the report itself actually says, and I'm quoting here, that governments are the, they say states, are the primary duty bearers when it comes to the education of children.

Now, that is not a biblical ideal. In fact, the Bible is very clear. Parents are in charge of the education of their children and they can delegate some of that, of course, but government was never given any kind of duty over the education of children in the Bible.

It's certainly not an American idea, right? Read your constitution, read your declaration of independence, read the comments of the founding fathers. The idea that government was the primary duty bearer of education is simply incomprehensible to the people of that era. Go back and look at the definition of education in Noah Webster's 1828 dictionary, the first American dictionary, clearly says that immense responsibility rests on parents to make sure their children are educated, not government.

Okay. Now, to the extent that parents are still allowed to participate in all of this, the government wants to make sure that parents do it in line with the UN's demands. And so they propose, among other things, mandatory training from the government for parents who want to homeschool so that governments can tell parents what they need to do.

They also say, I mean, some really incredible things. They say that the government needs to make sure that the education renders the advantages of one's family background irrelevant to one's prospects. In other words, parents should not be able to help their children succeed in life more than anybody who didn't have parents who helped them.

Can you imagine saying that parents cannot be allowed to give their children a leg up in their future prospects? That's crazy. And no parent would accept that, right? It also really comes down on what they call harmful gender roles. There's a big section in there about how terrible it is that typically in homeschool families, fathers and husbands serve as the breadwinners.

And wives, mothers typically handle more of the teaching. They call mothering duties, they call it unpaid care work, which is, I guess, supposed to be a derogatory term. You're supposed to feel bad for those poor moms.

Oh man, poor, how oppressed they are that they have to do unpaid care work, like take care of their children. Yeah, man, is that horrible, right? I'm going to quote from the report here. It says, homeschooling must uphold gender equality by avoiding the reinforcement of traditional roles, promoting shared responsibilities and ensuring that curricula challenge stereotypes.

Direct quote from this report. They also really don't like homeschooling in America. They point to some of the states.

We have about 12 states that don't really have any regulation on homeschoolers. And the UN says their concerns have been raised that governments may not be taking adequate measures to protect children from their parents. Yeah, oh yeah, a lot of concern.

Who's raising the concerns? Well, the bureaucrat from North Korea, right? Of course, who else would be raising the concerns? You have also the UN demand that governments provide parental support if they're going to allow homeschooling. And they actually tell you what that means, right? I'm going to read right here from their report. In countries where homeschooling is permitted, such supportive measures could include training programs, access to educational resources, guidelines, periodic home visits, forums for peer to peer exchanges that enable parents to ensure both the child's right to quality education and compliance with state defined minimum education standards.

So I hope you're seeing where this is going, folks. This is a brazen attack on parental rights, on educational liberty. The report actually also calls for banning spanking, all forms of corporal punishment.

It says states must prohibit corporal punishment in all settings, including the home. In other words, if you discipline your children with a light spanking, you are a criminal. The government should come in and put you in jail and take your children into state custody.

Plain as day in this report, folks. And by the way, yes, Christians are the real target here. Christian American homeschoolers.

They say that religious homeschooling might lead to dogmatic approaches that may stir up intolerance. Yeah. Okay.

They actually talk about this kind of terrible religious program as approaches to homeschooling that seek not just a single course on religion, but instead desire to have all disciplines taught through the eyes of their particular faith. So if you're a Christian and you try to teach history and science and English through a biblical lens, you're one of those people engaged in dogmatic approaches that may stir up intolerance, and of course that cannot be tolerated. Nothing about the dogmatic intolerance of totalitarian dictatorships like North Korea, no, no, no.

It's parents who are trying to teach their children biblical values that are the intolerant ones who need to be stopped by the United Nations. And by the way, this doesn't just apply to homeschoolers. It's for private schools.

It's for companies that support homeschoolers, private schools. They actually say in here, and I'm quoting, without regulation, online educational content could promote the problematic agendas of groups with vested interests. In other words, online educational content, if you're not familiar with our sister organization, the Freedom Project Academy, I serve on the board there, it's a wonderful K through 12 school.

That's what they're talking about. This needs to be regulated by government because it could promote the problematic agendas of groups of vested interests. Now, apparently politicians, dictators, governments, they never promote the problematic interests, the agendas of groups with vested interests.

Nope. That's only online educational content providers like online schools, Christian curricula, things like this. And if you look, folks, they're being very, very clear in this report.

Now they claim that international law requires all of this. They said this huge range of international agreements, conventions, things like this. And they claim that these must be followed.

We talked a little bit about the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, which is of course problematic for the reasons that we've already discussed. But there are others as well. One of the foundational ones is the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

This is basically the foundation of the UN human rights machine. And surprise, the Soviet dictatorship played a critical role in writing this Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which is not going to be surprising if you've read this declaration. I want to start in Article 29.

If you read it, it actually says in clear English that the rights and freedoms in this thing may in no case be used contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations. Imagine for a moment a First Amendment to our Constitution, for example, that said Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion and infringing on freedom of speech or freedom of assembly, unless Congress doesn't like what you have to say, unless it's contrary to the principles of Congress, in which case we're going to throw you in jail for saying those things or believing those things. I mean, that is essentially the equivalent of what the UN is saying in Article 29 of this preposterous declaration.

And of course, that's why governments like North Korea and China can say, oh, yes, we love human rights, human rights. We're so good at following human rights. America is bad at human rights, right? Yeah.

Now let's continue in this ridiculous document. If you go down to Article 26 in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, you'll find something interesting. It says education shall be compulsory.

A compulsory right. Now, does that sound like what our founding fathers were calling for, where they said government must protect your right to life, your right to liberty, your right to property? Of course not, right? Because we're talking about totally different things. Our founding fathers who got their ideas from the Bible understood that God gave us a right to life.

He said, thou shalt not murder, and therefore you have a right to life. He taught throughout the scriptures that government must punish evil. In fact, civil government was instituted to punish murder.

And therefore, government must help you protect your right to life and punish those who violate it. Same thing with property, right? Thou shalt not steal. Government must help you protect your right to property.

And that is a God-given right. The UN, by contrast, says you have a right to a compulsory education at gunpoint that, and if you keep reading in Article 26, it says, education shall further the activities of the United Nations. And they're telling you, you have a human right to a compulsory education that furthers the activities of the United Nations.

And so what happens if a private school in America or Zimbabwe or Thailand, what happens if a homeschool family in Oklahoma or South Carolina or New York doesn't further the activities of the United Nations in their homeschool or their private school? What if they teach the children the truth about the United Nations? Well, that's going to be a problem. You are now depriving those children of their human right as stipulated in Article 26 to a compulsory education that furthers the activities of the United Nations. So folks, this isn't rocket science.

It's not brain surgery. It's very clear what they're doing. They are trying to create a totalitarian, globally standardized indoctrination system masquerading as education.

And they're going to accuse you of human rights violations if you don't comply. Now, we're almost out of time. There was so much more I wanted to say, but I encourage you to go back and watch the many, many episodes we've done on what the UN is saying about education.

Because yes, they've got a world core curriculum. They want to talk to every child in every school in every country. It's based on the teachings of Alice Bailey, the founder of the Lucifer Publishing Company, according to the guy who wrote it, Robert Mueller.

Okay, so you can go back and watch all that. But I do want to break down the constitutional issues here real quick. The UN keeps talking like we have an obligation to do all these things under international human rights law and all these different agreements.

Folks, our constitution does not make the UN or UN agreements the supreme law of the land. Our constitution is the supreme law of the land, along with treaties and statutes that are made in pursuance thereof. In other words, treaties and statutes that are constitutional, that are made in pursuance thereof.

If they are not constitutional, then of course they are not the supreme law of the land. In fact, they are null and void on their face. Thomas Jefferson wrote about this in a letter to U.S. Senator Wilson Carey Nicholas, September 7, 1803.

He said, I say the same as to the opinion of those who consider the grant of the treaty-making power as boundless. If it is, we have no constitution. Just to be clear, the federal government cannot usurp new powers by signing a treaty.

If they want to usurp new powers, we've got an amendment process. It's outlined in Article 5. They can submit this to the American people and to our states. For consideration.

And it's a high bar on purpose. We wanted it to be a high bar. And if the American people think the federal government ought to be doing something.

Again, we have an amendment process. It's not the treaty. It's not the statute.

It's the amendment process. That's how they can acquire new powers if they want them after careful debate and consideration. And the Supreme Court has upheld this even as recently as 1957 in Reed versus Covert.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the U.S. Constitution supersedes international treaties and that the federal government cannot accumulate new power just by approving treaties. In 1997, a hugely significant Supreme Court case, Prince versus the United States, found that the federal government cannot commandeer state or local government to implement its policy. So even if these treaties were constitutional, the federal government cannot force the state of Florida or the state of Texas or a school district or anyone else to comply with these so-called obligations.

Folks, this is a very serious threat to our country. It's a very serious threat to our homeschools. It's a very serious threat to our private schools, and we must resist it at all costs.

I cannot emphasize strongly enough how dangerous this is. I've been warning about it for a long time. They actually call on governments everywhere to redefine education as a human right.

That's what Farida Shaheed, the UN Special Rapporteur on the Human Right to Education, said in her report attacking the United States earlier this year, that governments at the state and federal level must define education as a human right. That way, the UN will determine what quality education means and you have a human right to it. We need to oppose this with everything we have got.

Thankfully, the Trump administration is getting us out of UNESCO as we speak, but of course, even after the administration made that announcement, UNESCO came out, the director general there, Audrey Azoulay, a socialist, said, oh, don't worry, we'll just welcome you back when you're ready to rejoin, and we'll keep working with our American partners in the meantime, states, locals, academia, publishers, whatever. So folks, this threat is not going away. In fact, it's only going to get more and more serious, and you need to lean on your member of Congress to take it very seriously.

We're talking about basic, fundamental rights here, the right to educate our children the way that God has called us to educate them, the right to oversee the upbringing of our children the way God has called us to do it. We've got to deal with this, folks. The deep state wants your children, and I can't say it any more clearly than that.

Satan wants your children, and really, the future of liberty actually hinges on this battle, folks. If we give them our children, it's all over. I'm Alex Newman.

This is Behind the Deep State for The New American Magazine. Get over to the newamerican.com, the newamerican.com. Sign up for The Print Magazine. Become a subscriber today.

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Until next time, we appreciate you very much, and God bless you all.

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1 posted on 11/16/2025 9:23:31 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It is time for the US to defund the UN and kick it out of the US.


2 posted on 11/16/2025 9:27:30 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Past time to abandon the UN.


3 posted on 11/16/2025 9:33:24 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I confess to strong mixed emotions regarding home schooling.

With diligent and well intentioned parents, it could be the best thing that could happen regarding a child’s education.

However with some parents, it’s just another form of child abuse.

Government attempts to control and regulate “home schooling” is a slippery slope to even greater problems.

There’s no easy or universal solution.


4 posted on 11/16/2025 9:37:05 AM PST by sjmjax
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To: sjmjax
I confess to strong mixed emotions regarding home schooling.

Do you have mixed emotions about the United Nations dictating United States education policies?

5 posted on 11/16/2025 9:48:35 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (I have no answers. Only questions.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Blue helmets make nice targets.


6 posted on 11/16/2025 10:00:28 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The UN position is their bureaucracy owns all children.

All else is detail.

7 posted on 11/16/2025 10:05:45 AM PST by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along.)
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To: sjmjax

You need to do more research then.

The government school system is designed o create failure. I postulate that doing nothin to “educate” children will provide a better outcome than most schools, especially urban ones.


8 posted on 11/16/2025 10:23:58 AM PST by cyclotic (Don’t be part of the problem. Be the entire problem)
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To: Ge0ffrey

“...It is time for the US to defund the UN and kick it out of the US.....”

Waaaayyyyyyy past time. That’s a ship that should have sailed a looonnnnggggg time ago.


9 posted on 11/16/2025 10:30:03 AM PST by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created...")
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To: sjmjax

“However with some parents, it’s just another form of child abuse.”

Many Public schools are just another form of child abuse, be it through indoctrination, bullying, arbitrary constraints on growth, herd learning, punishment of male energy, etc.

I think this has proven the real societal risk. But neither the UN, nor the teachers unions, nor most governments acknowledge or care about these harms.


10 posted on 11/16/2025 10:38:18 AM PST by Señor Presidente (Tyranny deserves insurrection)
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To: sjmjax; E. Pluribus Unum; metmom; cyclotic; Salman; Señor Presidente
You’re not alone with your mixed emotions.

Other FReepers have articulated the same concern.

Indeed, many of us who HSed have fielded similar arguments and many, many more.

Here’s the bottom line on HSing: The rights of PARENTS and GUARDIANS, when it comes to educating our children, are plenary. End of discussion.

Now, to your point about abuses…that’s always the situation with rights and a free society. It is just like with the right to keep and bear arms; plenary rights cannot be watered down due to the behavior of bad actors.

This comes down to risk-minimization vs elimination. In investing, you lower your risk of loss or volatility by spreading your eggs across several baskets. However, one risk you cannot diversity away is the "systematic risk" or the risk inherent in the system...call it market risk or whatever, the basic reality is some baseline level of risk will ALWAYS exist, and you can't avoid it.

The same applies to America, her freedoms, and in this case the lnenary rights of parents to educate their kids and the few instances of insane acts of abuse.

Laws that support, life, liberty, and property are right and proper. Many laws act as a deterrent and will stop people on the margin from doing bad things...this is akin to diversifying away the non-systematic risk. Thus laws criminizing murder, and child abuse, are right and proper.

However, in a nation like America where freedom reigns and the individual trumps the collective, the risk of a maniac going on a killing spree - or a bad parent using HSing as a shield - is Nin-diversifable. It is idiosyncratic.

The adults in the room understand on some baseline level, in a relatively free society of 330MM people who are LARGELY civilized, you'll ALWAYS have a few pathological maniacs who will shoot up a club, derail a train, or abuse their kids. These modest and random acts of violence, are the Undiversifiable/systematic risk of a free society.

Sure, maybe some laws can help, like liberal application of the 2nd Amendment and concealed carry, and criminalizing child abuse. But uncivilized folks will act uncivilized.

The political class and purveyors of Authority Bias want you to think the idiosyncratic risk of a free sociey CAN be eliminated, via shredding civil liberties, e.g., we can eliminate child abused by imposing “reporting requirements” on HSing parents.

But even welding a GoPro to the heads of 330MM people with central monitoring in DC. won’t end abuse. After all, people in jail still get drugs and weapons.

I guarantee you, any control imposed on HSing to stop abuse won’t stop abuse, but it WILL succeed in crippling parental rights.

Which, after all, is the end game anyway. Indeed, the whole minors being mentally transitioned with the aid of teachers shutting out parents is a great example of this end-game.

11 posted on 11/16/2025 11:31:15 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

US out of the UN
UN out of the US


12 posted on 11/16/2025 11:47:35 AM PST by NonValueAdded (First, I was a clinger, then deplorable, now I'm garbage. Feel the love? )
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To: sjmjax

Sending kids to public school does NOTHING to mitigate child abuse.

The argument that it MIGHT protect kids from abusive parents is very weak, as there are many kids who are not even homeschooled who are abused and aren’t sent to public schools. There are regular reports of a family that hid their kids so well that the neighbors had no idea they existed.

You’re absolutely correct that government oversight of homeschooling is a slippery slope.

The reality is government oversight or involvement of ANYTHING is a slippery slope.


13 posted on 11/16/2025 2:40:07 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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To: DoodleBob

What you said.


14 posted on 11/16/2025 2:42:01 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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