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1 posted on 11/14/2025 11:25:53 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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I wish the GOP would get busy and come up with a replacement for Obamacare that really works for the People.


2 posted on 11/14/2025 11:30:14 AM PST by dpetty121263
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There’s this thing called the private sector that worked pretty good before it was abandoned about sixty years ago in favor of the government-insurance-medicine incest model that currently exists.


3 posted on 11/14/2025 11:38:12 AM PST by SpaceBar
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No. Get the government out of healthcare altogether, it’s not their job to be involved in the first place.


5 posted on 11/14/2025 11:39:20 AM PST by Antihero101607
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Basic health care should be plentiful, inexpensive, and of high quality. Keeping People Healthy is the name of the game.

Advanced, more complex, and intrusive care and procedures will always be rationed, by quality or prices.

“Health Care” is not a right. You can’t have a “right” if someone has to work to provide it for you.

The world is a big place. Lots of people.

Some people get sick real bad and need some help.
Some people take advantage of every grifting opportunity and don’t give a shiiite.
Combine compassion for the first, with sheer disgust for the second. That’s where we are.


6 posted on 11/14/2025 11:42:53 AM PST by Macoozie (Roll MAGA, roll!)
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“ Every Obamacare enrollee would receive a check from the federal government to spend on health care”

Perhaps put money in an account which can be drawn only to be paid directly to a healthcare provider. Giving a check to people will just find it spent on who knows what.


8 posted on 11/14/2025 11:47:02 AM PST by Freee-dame (The left never dreamed that Trump would be back in the White House in 2025. )
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Congressman Gary Palmer (R-Alabama 6th/Hoover) introduced his alternative plan on March 6. It's been buried in the busy-ness of this administration's first 10 months of activity, but hopefully it can start gaining some traction (though sadly, the author of the article in the OP had no idea this exists).

Here's the highlights:

New Health Options Act

    Creates a new marketplace: A separate market is proposed that exists alongside the ACA marketplace.
    Requires cash price disclosure: Insurers must disclose the cash price of a service if it is lower than the negotiated rate.
    Increases flexibility: Aims to provide more choice for those in narrow provider networks.
    Guarantees coverage: Ensures coverage for preexisting conditions, but at a lower cost.

Retirement Freedom Act

    Decouples Social Security and Medicare: Allows seniors to choose to opt out of Medicare enrollment without forfeiting their Social Security benefits.
    Empowers seniors: Aims to give senior citizens more control over their own medical decisions by allowing them to keep private insurance if they prefer.

General stances on healthcare reform

    Repeal and replace ACA: Palmer has long advocated for replacing the ACA with market-based reforms, such as allowing insurance to be purchased across state lines.
    Reduce government control: Supports limiting the size and scope of government involvement in healthcare.
    Support for specific measures: Introduced legislation to ensure doctors get paid under new coding systems for Medicaid and Medicare patients.

9 posted on 11/14/2025 11:50:38 AM PST by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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We don’t need an alternative. We need it eliminated altogether and health insurance returned to the free market, even the decision to not get insurance. Give the bureaucrats in charge of this mess a nice exit bonus of 100 dollars and fire them all. If it turns out that they can’t be fired then transfer them to a chair, a school desk, and a broken fax machine in a closet in some other department. The door probably shouldn’t be locked.


10 posted on 11/14/2025 12:00:58 PM PST by arthurus (l| covfeve |l j)
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Insurance was already screwed up, thanks to the states dictating policy content, for decades.

In the 80s/90s, the argument was that insurance should be required to pay for routine checkups. The theory being this would encourage more folks to get one, thereby reducing big claims later. States made it required across the board, though it was easier to get hospitalization only if you wanted it.

But all those new, albeit smaller claims, turned out to be more expensive simply due to the massive volume increase.

States also began to require that policies cover psychiatry, hence the explosion of ADHD in the 90s.

As policies got more and more expensive, the next “Big Idea” was commie care.

So it’s not about replacing commie care but getting government out of it, other than to deal w/fraud (from either side of the transaction).

The only thing keeping insurance companies from crossing state lines previously was the slightly different policy content requirements among the different states. With those gone, there’s no reason for an insurance company not to cover you on travel.


11 posted on 11/14/2025 12:04:08 PM PST by fruser1
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Replace it with NOTHING


12 posted on 11/14/2025 12:08:04 PM PST by Fledermaus ("It turns out all we really needed was a new President!")
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Just shitcan it totally and let market figure it out.


13 posted on 11/14/2025 12:12:15 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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Offer the American public what Congress gets...

https://www.opm.gov/healthcare-insurance/healthcare/


14 posted on 11/14/2025 12:12:50 PM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away! 🇺🇸 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 )
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Well if they do (which I’m not optimistic on) Massie will vote “no” to keep Obamacare in place as is...for the sake of the Constitution, of course.


17 posted on 11/14/2025 12:38:14 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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That Americans cannot agree is roof that we do agree… no more imposition of my plan over your plan.

Freedom to choose is the plan. Some believe they are theirs brother’s keeper and voluntarily donate to charity.., or support their lazy brother.

Some create jobs and expect their lazy brother to work.

To each his own is the plan.


19 posted on 11/14/2025 12:51:45 PM PST by spintreebob
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Subsidizing Dems d will never work no matter how you do it. The solution is on the supply side. More doctors. More nurses. More healthcare workers of all kinds.


20 posted on 11/14/2025 12:52:34 PM PST by Brilliant
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Whenever the government fixes something, it always makes it worse. The best thing they can do is let the marketplace correct the problem, whatever the problem may be.


22 posted on 11/14/2025 12:57:52 PM PST by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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Anytime something is maddeningly expensive you should always follow the money, figure out who’s getting rich from it. In this case it’s insurance companies, they’re siphoning off an incredible amount of money in the trail between doctor and patient while providing absolutely nothing of value, they’re simply middlemen. Did you ever wonder why insurance companies didn’t fight Obamacare? It’s because they got richer from it, who wouldn’t want a law saying everyone has to buy your product? Start with the insurance industry, I’d prefer to see health insurance outlawed all together, it provides no value other than skimming money. Schemes like selling insurance across state lines are mere band aids that will be laughed at, they’ll end run that in a day. The problem is the insurance industry takes a large amount of that money they’re skimming and funnels it back into politicians pockets to keep them voting for laws that allow insurance to rip us off.


23 posted on 11/14/2025 1:10:09 PM PST by GaryCrow
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The GOP plan is sitting on their ass doing nothing like they have for the PAST 15 YEARS.

Total idiots for not creating a great alternative that gets the government out of it and puts patients first rather than insurance companies.


24 posted on 11/14/2025 1:11:45 PM PST by Hoboto (I blame Hippies.)
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I got something that the GOP can do. JUST ELIMINATE THE ACA, and let the free market do its thing.


25 posted on 11/14/2025 1:31:22 PM PST by ducttape45 (Jeremiah 17:9, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?")
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Republicans and “unite” are incongruous in the same sentence.


27 posted on 11/14/2025 2:10:12 PM PST by Bullish (My tagline ran off with another man, but it's okay... I wasn't married to it.)
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Never forget that in 2013, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, among numerous others, openly admitted that ObamaCare was simply a stepping stone to a Single Payer system... aka Universal Healthcare.

And the obvious and only way to make that leap is for the ACA to explode prices and deductibles and premiums (which it has), until the system collapses, and the ONLY possible reaction for the supermajority of voters is to insist that only government is big enough and has enough resources to "fix" the problem.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/08/10/sen-harry-reid-obamacare-absolutely-a-step-toward-a-single-payer-system/<./a>

Let's not step into the trap as they intended all along.

32 posted on 11/14/2025 3:04:48 PM PST by Teacher317
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