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1 posted on 11/12/2025 8:32:28 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: SunkenCiv

Roll over, Beethoven Ping!...................


2 posted on 11/12/2025 8:32:51 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

Let me guess - he’s actually a transgender African!


4 posted on 11/12/2025 8:36:08 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Red Badger

or... that wasn’t locks of his hair


5 posted on 11/12/2025 8:37:33 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Red Badger; dfwgator; null and void; Kenny Bania; gundog; Larry Lucido

(Groupies Cut Locks of Beethoven’s Hair… Two Centuries Later, Scientists Reveal Shocking DNA Results)

Turns out that he was using Pantene.

He got a free sample in his junk mail 📬.

Well, there really is no such thing as “junk mail”...

It takes just as much effort to deliver it....

Newman!!


7 posted on 11/12/2025 8:39:51 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Red Badger

8 posted on 11/12/2025 8:40:07 AM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: Red Badger

Poor Beethoven trusted the science.


9 posted on 11/12/2025 8:42:03 AM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Red Badger

Fascinating. And I never knew they could get DNA from hair snips. I thought you had to have roots. Anyone know?


11 posted on 11/12/2025 8:42:37 AM PST by mairdie
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To: Red Badger

Abstract
While the idea that Beethoven had African ancestry became popular in the 1960s during the Civil Rights struggle in the United States, its conception arose during an earlier moment: the global New Negro movement of the 1920s. Appearing in newspaper columns, music journals, and essays, Black American writings on Beethoven challenged white musicians’ claims to the canon of Bach, Beethoven, and Brahms. This article argues that the project of making Beethoven Black belonged to a greater and more ambitious endeavour to rewrite Western music history. Black musicologists sought to globalize the Western canon, and in so doing, critique its grand narratives. Locating Black musical idioms in eighteenth-century piano sonatas or conducting archival research on Black European figures such as George Bridgetower, their music histories challenged readers to re-examine just who, exactly, had contributed to the project of cultural modernity and on what grounds.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/twentieth-century-music/article/making-beethoven-black-the-new-negro-movement-black-internationalism-and-the-rewriting-of-music-history/EE7BEFD9FB9D795D76F6EB741C3E8566


14 posted on 11/12/2025 8:47:25 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Red Badger

I don’t see any particular surprise with his DNA.

The lead and whatnot are somewhat surprising (not really? Given what passed for medicine at they time), but that has nothing to do with his lineage.


15 posted on 11/12/2025 8:51:26 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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To: Red Badger
old joke ---
Sounds from inside Beethoven's tomb were heard, and the authorities summoned. Opening it up, they found Beethoven, who had composed so wonderfully, writing on parchment paper with a quill pen. Crossing out line after line, it was found he was de-composing.

20 posted on 11/12/2025 8:56:47 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Red Badger

Purported to be Beethoven’s hair.


21 posted on 11/12/2025 8:58:43 AM PST by Chickensoup
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To: Red Badger
So many men have had their Y-DNA tested...maybe they can figure out what Beethoven's real paternal ancestry was.

What if he was really a Schroeder?

25 posted on 11/12/2025 9:05:19 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Red Badger

It is all speculation, because there is no way to prove the locks of hair tested belonged to Beethoven.


28 posted on 11/12/2025 9:16:24 AM PST by rod5591
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To: Red Badger

Hmm. His mom cheated.


29 posted on 11/12/2025 9:17:46 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Red Badger

Maybe Beethoven’s hair, maybe not. Lead poisoning has the effect of dulling the senses but also leading to dementia. Hard to believe someone with chronic lead toxicity could continue to compose great music.


30 posted on 11/12/2025 9:17:55 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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To: Red Badger

The DNA of his hair revealed he was a gender-neutral trannie poisoned by vulgar and uncultivated MAGA extremists


34 posted on 11/12/2025 11:29:50 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: Red Badger

And you can buy the book:

https://www.amazon.com/Beethovens-Hair-Extraordinary-Historical-Scientific/dp/076790351X


38 posted on 11/12/2025 12:08:03 PM PST by decal (They won't stop, so they'll have to be stopped)
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