Posted on 11/09/2025 6:07:22 AM PST by cuz1961
I used strict math, logic, and science to show Grok (Elon Musk’s AI) that dinosaurs lived at the same time as humans — it admitted it. But then it defaulted right back to the evolutionary story…
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8jBbmjGwY0
Run time: 25 m
Sounds like a pretty tiny Brontosaurus. Or some pretty big trees.
Google’s Gemini AI will lie.
I tried to argue with it, but soon realized I was arguing with a machine and turned it off. Haven’t used the lying Gemini machine since.
The problem is, it’s polluting all of Google’s search engine now.
I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with - geometric logic - that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox DID exist!
I don't know if the problem is as big as I think it is, but I think the AI systems comb through the garbage on the internet and come to some bogus conclusions (partly skewed by the AI programming which wants to lean to biased directions). Then the AI "conclusion" gets added to the garbage on the internet, so the next time an AI system combs through the garbage on the internet, the result will be even worse. Seems like our global "data store" is being corrupted at an exponential rate.
Grok has problems on vaccine efficacy also.
Duh. But these Harbinger's Daily folks in Canada do run a nice business, wholly "non-denominational."
Answers In Genesis is having, as the site says, a November sale for its products. See: Answers in Genesis storeThey also solicit donations and happily collect your name and email, as do so many online sites these days. Another of their websites -- Answers TV --- does quite the same. And subscribing to this one is $39.99 / year.
But since the very shady Ken Ham is part of their blogging troop, I'd remain skeptical about them. It's a business. With lots of outreach to direct traffic to them.
Fool Grok? No big deal. The Turing and Searle tests already show this.
Besides, one doesn't need a 25 minute video to read:
Google Gemini AI Stuck In Self-Loathing: ‘I Am A Disgrace To This Planet’Google's AI, Gemini, Is Literally Depressed: 'I Am A Failure'
Why Grok called itself ‘Mecha-Hitler’, then posted a racist image; X responds
Racism and AI: "Bias from the past leads to bias in the future"
Covert Racism in AI: How Language Models Are Reinforcing Outdated Stereotypes
The Grok chatbot spewed racist and antisemitic content : NPR
Is AI Fueling a New Wave of Misogyny and Harassment?
AI girlfriends, sex robots and sexism — Laura Bates on the new tech-driven misogyny
What is the probability that man lived with dinosaurs?
GROK:
The probability that humans (modern Homo sapiens) lived alongside non-avian dinosaurs is effectively 0%, based on the fossil record, radiometric dating, and geological evidence. Here’s a clear breakdown:
1. Timeline Separation
Non-avian dinosaurs (e.g., Tyrannosaurus, Triceratops) went extinct at the end of the Cretaceous period via the Chicxulub asteroid impact.
Date: ~66 million years ago (Ma).
Evidence: Iridium-rich K-Pg boundary layer globally; mass extinction in fossil record (Alvarez et al., 1980; Schulte et al., 2010).
Modern humans (Homo sapiens) first appear in the fossil record during the Middle Paleolithic.
Date: ~300,000 years ago (earliest confirmed fossils in Morocco; Hublin et al., 2017).
Gap: ~65.7 million years with no overlap.
2. No Credible Evidence of Coexistence
Fossil record: No human remains or artifacts in Cretaceous strata; no dinosaur remains in Quaternary (human-era) deposits.
Alleged “proof” debunked:
Paluxy River “human-dino” tracks (Texas): Misidentified dinosaur tracks or erosional features (Kuban, 1989; Palaeontology journal).
Ica Stones (Peru): Modern forgeries with drilled grooves under microscopy (Carroll, 1980).
Ancient art (e.g., “dinosaur petroglyphs”): Pareidolia or stylized extinct megafauna (e.g., rhinos, elephants).
3. Avian Dinosaurs (Birds) Exception
Birds are theropod dinosaurs (clade Avialae).
Humans do live with avian dinosaurs (e.g., chickens, eagles).
But the question typically refers to non-avian dinosaurs (extinct giant reptiles), not birds.
Conclusion
Non-avian dinosaurs: 0% probability of coexistence with humans.
Avian dinosaurs (birds): 100%—we live with them today.
AI is the trash compacter of GIGO.
Kudos. And YouTube long-form videos are the narcotics.
Criticism of current AI to me is much like criticism of the Wright brothers flyer.
Yeah, it’s flawed, impractical and little more than a toy.
But, for better or worse it’s the harbinger of things to come.
A tale of technological evolution that has been told over and over again.
Yet, there are always those who refuse to accept the historical truth of technological advances.
25 mins to make his point?
LLMs regress to the mean? no way
Artificial intelligence means it can mimic human behavior. No more than that.
AI is a computer program. Computer programs are written by people. AI programs are very complicated because they are too big to be written by a few people. They need hundreds of people, and they all don’t talk to each other. Most of them are from India. There are a few Americans involved. Then, AI has to digest a huge amount of information. Not all of the information is true or factual. AI can’t tell the difference.
AI being unable to reconcile bits of contradictory information is not a proof for or against God. Any time that you spend trying to make AI provide an opinion is not well spent. It isn’t as if AI is like the computer on Star Trek or the robot on Lost in Space. It doesn’t have a personality or ego and when it says “I” it doesn’t mean it has a consciousness. AI is not even as conscious as a dog.
I’ll take AI seriously when it can read Minoan.
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