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AI, UBI, and the surveillance state
American Thinker ^ | 8 Nov, 2025 | Milli Sands

Posted on 11/08/2025 6:02:12 PM PST by MtnClimber

Artificial Intelligence (AI) is rapidly transforming the economy, boosting productivity while simultaneously threatening widespread job displacement. As AI progresses, a growing number of workers face unemployment or precarious employment, fueling political pressure for Universal Basic Income (UBI)—typically understood as unconditional payments aiming to guarantee a basic standard of living.

However, behind this policy response lies a fundamental truth: income provided by UBI is redistributed wealth, funded predominantly by taxing others. Taken to its fullest extent, this scenario envisions UBI becoming the total income for many individuals, fundamentally transforming the economy’s reliance from earned wages toward government transfers.

Traditional UBI proponents emphasize unconditional, unrestricted payments that uphold dignity and autonomy by letting recipients decide how to allocate funds. Yet, as more recipients rely entirely on UBI, governments develop incentives to condition or control spending to ensure funds are used “appropriately” on essentials like food, housing, or healthcare. This urge shifts UBI away from unconditional cash to a conditional benefit—introducing a powerful mechanism for centralized control.

This shift often involves digital platforms and payment channels that tie disbursement to monitored transactions. Here lies the connection to Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs). CBDCs are digital currencies issued by central banks with features that allow:

Real-time monitoring of every transaction, Restriction of spending categories, and Immediate freezing or withdrawal of funds on policy breaches. Together, conditional UBI schemes and CBDCs form comprehensive financial surveillance infrastructures, akin to models already tested worldwide. This emerging economic governance framework could severely limit financial autonomy, erode privacy, and enable government-imposed behavioral controls dictating permissible expenditures.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: cbdc; centralbank; control; digitalcurrency; globalism; globalists; leftism; monitoring; tyranny

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1 posted on 11/08/2025 6:02:12 PM PST by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

The Nancy State does not want to wait.


2 posted on 11/08/2025 6:02:27 PM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber; 444Flyer

The Plan is Lock Up Humanity in Digital Smart Cities (CBDC, Facial Recognition, GEOFENCING) (My title - SHORT VIDEO 1:27 long)

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/4329921/posts

Geofencing: “Think of it as an invisible fence around you... that will be related to your face recognition, digital identity, and access control”

Big Tech whistleblower Aman Jabbi exposes the digital prison being constructed all around us in this clip from The Agenda: Their Vision Your Future.


3 posted on 11/08/2025 6:08:16 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: MtnClimber
(Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs).)

Just wait until it's tied to your FACE, phone 📱,
Palm Print, Debit Cards 💳💳💳
/ Credit Cards 💳💳💳

Unlikely? You WILL see it happen


People ARE being conditioned - Geofencing in progress

(I know that it seems hard to believe but look at how everyone is being electronically fenced-in via Digital ID; Digital Currency; Digital Systems, etc. - IT WILL ONLY CONTINUE TO GROW; GUARANTEED)

[The Mark of the Beast]

Society is being CONDITIONED / Trained / Digitally Geo-Fenced

Even if accidentally, it will become routine





4 posted on 11/08/2025 6:14:54 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: MtnClimber

AI the new islam


5 posted on 11/08/2025 6:16:08 PM PST by butlerweave (Fateh)
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To: SaveFerris

Agree completely, they (the WEF sycophants) intend to use AI to redistribute goods and services and wealth in such a way where all previous surveillance state Communist regimes have failed at.

When they implement a Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) with mandatory digital ID and tokenize everything for all buying and selling globally and then add in the ‘vaccine’ DNA alteration requirements and use the equivalent of Social Credit scores (they will call it something else) this will in effect make us all in agreement with the likes of that demonic Barack Obama and all those just like him.

This will be the Mark of the Beast and those receiving it all being given over to Satan and to his kingdom for their peace and security. Which they will never have. It is a lie.

The good news that everyone should know is that Satan only gets this evil authority over the entire Earth for exactly 42 months, 1260 days or three and one-half years and then God shuts it down permanently with the return of Jesus bodily to this Earth to rule and reign forever.


6 posted on 11/08/2025 6:34:31 PM PST by captmar-vell
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To: MtnClimber

It’s not something I really pay a lot of attention to, but UBI schemes seem to involve relatively small amounts of money. Like, $1000 a month or something like that. Hey, if anyone wants to hand me an extra $1000 a month, I would take it. But it won’t pay my mortgage. It won’t pay my bills. It won’t pay for anybody’s education.

I think the big fear is that AI and automation may make a large number of people pretty much unemployment. If you no longer have any way to contribute your labor to the national economy, then you are out of luck and should just sit at home and try to stay out of trouble. No wages for you. But don’t worry — here is a whopping $1000 a month so you will survive.

I just don’t see this as any sort of solution to anything.

And my little discourse says “$1000 a month” — I have no idea what UBI scheme people are really thinking of, but it’s not $10,000 a month, and if it were we would be at Zimbabwe levels of inflation.


7 posted on 11/08/2025 6:37:24 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Democrats seek power through cheating and assassination. They are sociopaths. They just want power.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

As I understand it...you will “earn” tokens to use to buy groceries, goods, etc. HOW will you earn them? You will have to devise ways to monetize yourself by doing good in your community, or some such thing. A lot of things will be free (so they say), like energy. THAT is what I have heard from my hub who is following major players/promoters online.


8 posted on 11/08/2025 6:45:16 PM PST by goodnesswins (Make educ institutions return to the Mission...reading, writing, math...not Opinions & propaganda)
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To: captmar-vell

It’s going to be a basic part of Society and I think it won’t be very long

Then it’s just a Hop, Skip and a Jump to the Mark of the Beast (when the time comes)

God bless


9 posted on 11/08/2025 7:05:00 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: captmar-vell
Agree completely, they (the WEF sycophants) intend to use AI to redistribute goods and services and wealth in such a way where all previous surveillance state Communist regimes have failed at. ...


10 posted on 11/08/2025 7:19:30 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: SaveFerris

This is also why they are increasingly becoming more determined to limit free speech around the globe.

Only America remains standing in their way. Its imperative to the rollout of their plans that any sharing or understanding of these things must be hindered, hampered and shutdown.


11 posted on 11/08/2025 7:22:13 PM PST by captmar-vell
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To: MacNaughton

Satan gives these people their seat and power and great authority.

Praying believers have the authority to rebuke this evil from ever rising up. But we know one day they will, and its coming closer every year.


12 posted on 11/08/2025 7:26:36 PM PST by captmar-vell
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To: MtnClimber
"Five Year Plans and New Deals, wrapped in golden chains
And I wonder, still I wonder, who'll stop the rain?"

13 posted on 11/08/2025 7:28:19 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: SaveFerris

>> Then it’s just a Hop, Skip and a Jump to the Mark of the Beast (when the time comes)

Have you ever been to this site? I stumbled onto it while ruminating on this thread, and meditating on the combination of Jesus’ Olivet Discourse, 2 Timothy 3, and Hebrews 10:23-25

https://www.biblestudysimply.com/2025/10/15/what-did-you-think-a-godless-society-would-look-like/

Blessings in Christ!


14 posted on 11/08/2025 7:32:18 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Hope, as a righteous product of properly aligned Faith, IS in fact a strategy.)
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To: captmar-vell
(This is also why they are increasingly becoming more determined to limit free speech around the globe.)

Yes. We have to share the Gospel of Jesus Christ NOW

The overwhelming majority of the world rejects the Lord Jesus Christ
as the Only True Messiah from God Almighty - unfortunately ✝️✝️🙏🙏🛐🛐




Pray Without Ceasing

✝️✝️✝️✝️🙏🙏🙏🙏🛐🛐🛐🛐
15 posted on 11/08/2025 9:08:49 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Nervous Tick

I’ll check it out tomorrow Lord willing

God bless you 😇😇😇🙏🛐🛐🙏✝️🙏🛐🙏✝️✝️✝️


16 posted on 11/08/2025 9:09:42 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: MacNaughton
World Economic Forum

The Godless Globalist World Economic Forum will
bring on the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse:
Satan's Antichrist, War, Famine, Pestilence / Death

Along with the rest of the Godless Globalists,
including the United Nations






17 posted on 11/08/2025 9:22:19 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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[“...On the same day, the World Economic Forum announced the appointment of Larry Fink, Chairman and CEO of BlackRock, as interim co-chairman alongside André Hoffmann, Vice Chairman of pharmaceutical and diagnostic giant Roche. This appointment takes effect immediately....”]
18 posted on 11/08/2025 9:26:56 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: MtnClimber
The ccming of the automobile cut the jobs of the foresters along the Pennsylvania/New York line, the fellows who cut down the hemlock and left the cherry, maple, ash, hickory trees to take over the woods.

What a shame! That hemlock bark was used to ma=ke tannic acid, so that the hides of bulls and horses could be used to make all the conformable harnesses and saddles used for hauling goods and rapid transportation--even to mobilize troops and artillery for war! (Not to mention shoes and belts and whiplashes . . . )

And it only took about twenty or thirty years to completely wipe out a whole industry, the one that gave rise even to music such as "The Camptown Races, Doo Dah" and other entertaining pursuits like horse racing.

It was the automation of travel and power from oil instead of grass and trees for horses and tack that did it. Pretty much over for cowboys and farmers as well.

Here we go, again.

19 posted on 11/09/2025 6:11:21 AM PST by imardmd1 (To learn is to live; the joy of living: to teach. Fiat Lux! )
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To: SaveFerris
Pray Without Ceasing

Yeah . . . don't cease without praying!

20 posted on 11/09/2025 6:14:31 AM PST by imardmd1 (To learn is to live; the joy of living: to teach. Fiat Lux! )
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