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Posted on 11/08/2025 10:46:36 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
"In other words, take from the BIG, BAD Insurance Companies, give it to the people, and terminate, per Dollar spent, the worst Healthcare anywhere in the World, ObamaCare. Unrelated, we must still terminate the Filibuster!" Trump says
While the government shutdown continues, President Trump on Sunday urged Senate Republicans to send the Obamacare subsidy money directly to taxpayers rather than to the insurance companies.
"I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the Hundreds of Billions of Dollars currently being sent to money sucking Insurance Companies in order to save the bad Healthcare provided by ObamaCare, BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER, HEALTHCARE, and have money left over," Trump wrote on Truth Social.
"In other words, take from the BIG, BAD Insurance Companies, give it to the people, and terminate, per Dollar spent, the worst Healthcare anywhere in the World, ObamaCare. Unrelated, we must still terminate the Filibuster!" he added.
Senate Democrats are advocating for a one-year extension of the Obamacare premium subsides that they put in place during the pandemic when former President Biden was in office.
Trump and Senate Republicans have argued that Democrats should support the temporary funding bill that would reopen the government and negotiate healthcare issues separately.
Trump has said the Senate GOP should eliminate the 60-vote threshold to pass legislation in order to reopen the government.
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Good luck. Too many Pukes and Rats are paid off by the insurance companies.
That is true. However....
The biggest reason they have to do that is for fraud/cost control. If they just paid everything that came in without checking it, fraud would be completely unchecked.
Nor do you avoid the problem by having the government take over that role, because then it has to do the exact same kind of fraud control. Except probably much less efficiently.
The only way to avoid it is for everyone to simply pay cash out of pocket, and have no group insurance of payment of any kind. And if people wish to do that...they can.
Senate Democrats are advocating for a one-year extension of the Obamacare premium subsides.
Insurance Companies own them like so many other companies do they could care less what things cost you their pockets get filled anyway.
The point(the goal) is to get health costs to fall because the U.S. hasn’t had capitalism in healthcare for over a century. That’s what HSAs would re-establish: capitalism.
Your sleep apnea claims would be less likely to be rejected in a cost-reduced (capitalist) scenario. That’s the ever defeating problem: The higher costs go, the more things get rejected. The more things get rejected, the higher costs go.
The reality is that employer-based systems delivered to us from the progressives almost a century ago suffers from the same flaw that the communist medicine hammock suffers from. We’ve run out of “other people’s money”. It just took longer to get here - and OBamcare only accelerated the process of running out.
I’m thankful you had other people’s money you could leverage when you needed it most for your sleep apnea and cancer scare. But is that really what you always want? Are you really going to run around and tell the world how proud you were that you had other people’s money?
When you needed my money, where was my opportunity to consent to you receiving my money? I would have consented, so that it is said.
But I never had consent or non-consent to begin with with respect to the money you needed. It was simply strong-arm taken. Consent is the one single thing at this point that separates Bernie’s Medicare For All universal healthcare and employer-based. I consented to join my company and go to work.
At the end of the day a society based on a non-consensual basis is not a society anybody wants to willingly live in.
Bkmrk
They won't be out of it. People will have to purchase it on their own. And, if they don't, we, the people, will not let them go untreated or be held liable for the bill.
People can use that route now.
So was your insurance cancelled when you were diagnosed with Sleep Apnea or did you not have any insurance when you were first diagnosed?
Stickler is the Corona extra gravy, even though Corona is no longer the issue. Starting a program is so easy, while terminating it is dang hard.
I agree. And have made that point here myself. But most people don't want that.
I think if you listen to what most people want, they want the very best care in the world, without paperwork, without insurance companies, without the damn government involved,and very inexpensive.
So...that's the problem.
What they really want is $$ for Uncle Sugar, some of which to be eked out for health care.
if they make too much money, they should be able to afford it, especially after you get rid of insurance which is what makes prices so high to begin with.
If everyone only paid out of their pocket what they could afford to, healthcare would be a fraction of the cost it is today because of insurance and government driving up the costs. There is no free market pressure on healthcare
I think if you listen to what most people want, they want the very best care in the world, without paperwork, without insurance companies, without the damn government involved,and very inexpensive.
So...that’s the problem.
Politicians gain power by promising them something for nothing.
Democracies collapse because something for nothing does not exist, on a large scale.
Rapidly advancing technology, combined with AI and robotics, may give us enough of “something for very little” to sustain the Republic for a significant time.
It is a bit of a long shot, but about all we have.
Oh well, nice while it lasted....
In addition, there is no satisfying this demand for “something for nothing”.
Our poor people live extremely pampered lives compared to 80% of the world, and 99.9% of the people throughout history. But the demand is always for more, more, more.
It is poverty of the soul, a desire to find meaning in possesions, which drives this, I believe.
There is also the drive for status and dominion over others, somewhat separate from possessions, which may have been best put as “Better to rule in Hell than serve in Heaven”.
Health insurance should be decoupled from employment.
It’s one of the reasons American workers are at a disadvantage. You don’t have to worry about paying for Sanjay in Mumbai’s health insurance.
Especially now with people changing jobs so often, or facing periods on unemployment.
What safeguards will be in place to make sure people actually spend the money on health insurance? And, yeah, expect lots of quack health insurance providers to pop up overnight to reap a windfall.
I have zero confidence that most people would do the right thing with these funds. Most of it would go help pay their existing bills.
This is the way!
No lie. Insurance allows true healthcare costs to be hidden by being artificially increased, and providers are required to code according to that structure. Many providers a different, often lower price tier for self payers. I’m on a concierge plan and they do.
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