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Who slipped the cyanide to Goering?
Thanks for the heads-up.
Another review posted earlier: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4351205/posts?page=41
This movie made me wonder if the left has the attention span to sit through it. Their knowledge of history is short. Call our people Nazis and they can see the connection without seeing the Nazi’s were social democrats. This movie was a formal journey into mind think and I believe the left is more into the knee-jerk reactions before all facts and ideas are considered.
With today’s standards in Hollywood, I’m surprised they didn’t dress the Goering character in a blue suit, red tie, and red baseball hat and have one of his lines be “We just wanted to make Germany Great Again”.
The movie didn’t mention who slipped him the cyanide. As I recall it just came out that one of the American guards gave it to him. It should have been brought up.
> Who slipped the cyanide to Goering? <
Two main theories:
- Goering always had it, hidden in his rolls of body fat.
- A sympathetic US jailer retrieved it from Goering’s luggage.
So either the US jailers were incompetent or in collusion. Either way, it’s inexcusable.
Crowe was padded up for the role but his face was so puffy he had to put on a lot of weight to play the part-unless AI could do it.
I seldom go out to see movies these days. They’re all crap but this was an exception. Theater made us sit through 25 minutes of previews.
Jewish lawyer Lt Col Robert “Rosie” Rosenthal was an assistant to the US Prosecutor Robert Jackson at the Nuremberg trials. He graduated from Brooklyn Law School summa cum laude and was working for a Manhattan law firm when Pearl Harbor was attacked.
Rosenthal was a B-17 pilot in the 8th Air Force 100 Bomb Group (Bloody 100th). In March 1944, Rosenthal’s crew (Rosie’s Riveters) completed their 25-mission combat tour. The crew returned to the US but Rosenthal extended his tour. He flew 52 combat missions, was shot down twice, and earned 16 decorations. After WW2, he returned to his legal career.
He is one of the characters featured in “Masters of the Air”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Rosenthal_(USAAF_officer)
Well at least this Nuremberg movie didn’t have Alec Baldwin, like the other one. But in that one the guy who played Goering was better, IMHO.
I had to double check if Roger Ebert was still among us?
He is not, but the site is a nice legacy.
I think that is alleged but not proven.
Only saw a short preview and I didn’t even recognize Crowe! He’s THAT good, LOL! Loved him in ‘Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World.’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHTHCNYiiHk
Yeah over 30 minutes of ‘previews’ when we went to the movies last week, Friday. Annoying.
“Even mentioned US concentration camps for the Japanese here.”
Total horseshit propaganda. They were -interned- were only for Japanese in the west coast states. They were not abused and tortured. Families were kept together AS families. They were not used as slave labor etc.
Japanese in Hawaii were not interned because the entire islands were under martial law.
Nobody ever hears about the Nihau incident.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ni%CA%BBihau_incident
A Zero damaged over Pearl Harbor landed on Nihau in Hawaii. hey had no radio and did not know of the attack. The pilot was injured but survived in good shape. The puzzled Hawaiians then sent for Yoshio Harada, who was born in Hawaii of Japanese ancestry, and his wife Irene (born Umeno Tanaka on Kauai), who constituted the remainder of the Niʻihau population of Japanese ancestry.
They spoke in Japanese to the pilot who told them of the attack and asked for their help.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ni%CA%BBihau_incident
Harada and his wife didn’t tell the locals about the attack and conspired with him to get his papers and arm him. Harada and his wife and the pilot joined him and got him a gun.
The pilot Nishikaichi unsuccessfully attempted to make contact with the Japanese military using the downed aircraft’s radio. With the help of Harada and one of their Hawaiian captives, Nishikaichi removed at least one of the plane’s two 7.7 mm machine guns with some ammunition, torched the plane, and proceeded to Kaleohano’s house, setting it ablaze in the early morning hours in a final effort to destroy Nishikaichi’s papers, which included maps, radio codes, and Pearl Harbor attack plans
After a confrontation some big Hawaiian body slammed the pilot on a stone wall and broke his back and killed him with a rock. Then Harada, the Japanese descent Hawaiian born guy killed himself.
Our military leaders and DC were horrified that someone of Japanese descent but born here, and no political training etc immediately joined the enemy. That was a huge motivation for the Internment.
By the way, internment is common between nations at war. It is even provided for in our constitution.
Most Japanese arrived on the west coast Between 1901 and 1908, a time of unrestricted immigration, 127,000 Japanese entered the U.S..
These were not long term Americans and many were born in the old country and grew up there.
The equivalent today is if we were in an existential war with Iran, with Islam in general, or with Venezuela, would we intern the ones who flooded into America illegally in the last two decades? If we were scared we might.
The Pacific fleet laid in ruins. The west coast was almost undefended. Aircraft factories in the Burbank and LA were heavily camouflaged, we moved all the Army we could up to the coast. They believed it enough that we built a fleet of blimps and bases all up and down the west coast and had the coast artillery manned. A Jap sub shelled the coast artillery at the month of the Columba River. The commanded didn’t fire back because he considered it reconnaissance and did not want to give away his strength and position. Another sub shelled targets in the Santa Barbara Area.
We were very vulnerable with the Army and its planes in the Philippines gone. The Army and Navy in Hawaii in ruins, the Nihau incident, and subs prowling the coast and shelling and probing.
Only a third of them were US citizens when interned...usually children born here. They were released in December of 1944, and allowed to return to the Pacific coast in January of 45.
The fable of American “concentration camps” need to die.
Also, nobody mentions Italian Americans, some of whom were US Citizens were interned.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Italian_Americans
The problem is the Communists have never been held accountable. That is true of the Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, etc. The left screams Nazis but doesn’t understand the Communist were worse.
The Communists were perceived as being for the “downtrodden”, while the Nazis were all about the “Master Race”.
But what’s funny is that Stalin governed more like Hitler, and in the Soviet Union, the Russians were the “Master Race”, despite Stalin and his cronies not being ethnic Russians. Stalin even rehabilited Czarist heroes, like Ivan The Terrible and Aleksandr Nevsky.
Interesting story, thanks.
Good account. Thank you.
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