Massie on last night: Maybe it suggests not alienating independents and shrinking the GOP tent

X ^ | Nov 5 | Rep. Thomas Massie

[RandFan]

@RepThomasMassie

Maybe it suggests not alienating independents and shrinking the GOP tent…

which has been done through attacks on the non-interventionist liberty wing of the party and by calling the Epstein situation a hoax.

[jmaroneps37]

Or maybe it suggests that of the 18 million illegal aliens the Democrats imported to be their voters, enough found their way to illegally vote in states known for cheating. Has is that for an answer Tommy?

[bigdaddy45]

And stop talking about invading Venezuela. That is that exactly what I did not vote for.

[Capn Hayek]

People should not ignore a couple of things:

It was more than just statewide (gov/lt gov/AG) offices up in the Virginia. The VA House of Delegates was a complete bloodbath for the GOP last night. -13!!! The Rats got damn near a super-majority in the lower chamber of Virginia and won a number of state house districts that Trump won easily.

I certainly recognize that nobody in Georgia really cares - or knew - there were two statewide Georgia races (Utilities Commissioners), but two Dems easily unseated two GOP incumbents.

There were also a number of local races beyond the three PA Supreme Court races — and the GOP got spanked there, too.

NJ and VA were going to elect Rat govs... and NYC was going to elect a socialist mayor. No surprises there.

But — dig deeper? There were warning signs. This was not purely a deep blue city electing a jihadi socialist nor just two blue states electing blue governors.

We whistle past some graveyards at our own peril.

[Wallace T.]

I am supportive of giving the Israelis, the Taiwanese, the South Koreans, and the Ukrainians whatever support in war materiel that they need. I also believe that this country should speak out against human rights abuses, not only in Nigeria, but in Britain, France, and Germany. However. we should not be looking for conflicts and Americans must see Trump entirely focused on domestic matters. Some of the issues, like the Fed holding off on interest rate cuts, are beyond Trump's control. His battling unfair trade practices and trying to bring manufacturing back to the U.S. are good. However, domestic manufacturers and retailers are unable to make a consistent profit when tariffs are in flux. There will be long term gain but the question arises as to whether the gains will be visible and tangible by the summer of 2026.

Dropoffs in Republican votes even in solidly red areas of New Jersey and Virginia in 2025 vs. 2024 and lesser declines in blue areas must be addressed. "It's the economy, stupid".

[delchiante]

‘Epstein’ was on the ballot?
/s
This guy had the Masshole rub off on him while attending a Masshole University.

[gibsonguy]

I don’t care if he is right on this point. Massie is fraud and a scumbag. Your thinly disguised support of him has worn thin.

[ek_hornbeck]

I wouldn't read too much into these off-cycle election results. So Democrats won in deep blue New Jersey, even bluer New York City, and somewhat lighter blue Virginia. Neither was a big surprise.

If Democrats started winning state-wide elections in Alabama or Montana, then Republicans should start worrying.

[20yearsofinternet]

Democrat states voted for Democrats. No one is really surprised.

Democrats flipped 3 seats in Mississippi and broke a 13-year supermajority. Just sayin'.

https://www.mississippifreepress.org/mississippi-democrats-break-republican-senate-supermajority-flipping-3-legislative-seats/

[Judge Bean]

No, Massie does not make a good point. We want a VALUES tent. We do not want a tent that welcomes everyone, including all sorts of leftist doctrines.

[ProgressingAmerica]

“But, as JD Vance said, massie isn’t there where the votes count. “

This is a mislead.

So often the big government liberal republicans dominate the vote and their zeal to surrender to the democrats becomes “the final vote”

We complain about this all the time, constantly. Free Republic is partially built on opposing the GOP’s drive to surrender to democrats.

Massie’s refusal to go along to get along is a big gold star and not being counted is the best count of all, proving JD is incorrect.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Something’s wrong with Massie.

[Olog-hai]

Once one is at the point of being a RINO in name only, does that make one a socialist?

[faithhopecharity]

Massie shrinks the R tent

one thing that R’s need to learn is messaging. PDJT is instinctively good at it, to be sure. But he usually speaks to immediate things. What’s needed is effective messaging about more fundamental and longer-term matters, things that can contribute to a wider-spread base of common values and societal goals. Ronald Reagan was very good at this.

[tennmountainman]

NJ, VA and CA are BLUE STATES. Nothing new that a Republican Can’t win in
Blue States. Gov Young of VA was an unusual case of a Republican winning.
So, the sky isn’t falling.

[mewzilla]

There are two tents, and both tents have people from both parties in them.

There’s Deep State’s tent.

There’s MAGA’s.

Deep State’s tent is shrinking.

MAGA’s is growing.

[GregH]

Mashole knows very well that it is a Democrat judge thethat is blocking the epstein files being released.

He goes along with Democrat talking points on epstein files even though it was liberals who were involved.

[backpacker_c]

JD Vance on Thomas Massie: Every Time We’ve Needed His Vote ‘He Has Been Completely Unwilling to Provide It’

“Having your own opinions is one thing. Voting against the party on every single issue, you’re eventually going to make too many enemies, and that is the problem that Thomas has had,” Vance told the crowd.

“It’s not one issue. It’s not three or four issues. It’s that every time that we’ve needed Thomas for a vote, he has been completely unwilling to provide it,” he said.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/10/30/jd-vance-on-thomas-massie-every-time-weve-needed-his-vote-he-has-been-completely-unwilling-to-provide-it/

or is it that you consider Trump’s agenda to be liberal,

therefore, all ‘good’ republicans should side and vote with the democrats to oppose it

[FreeReign]

Massie makes a well timed point.

No he doesn't.

Our NJ and VA candidates were wishy-washy and afraid to embrace MAGA. They all lost big.

Contrast that to my MAGA County executive right next to deep blue NYC who won easily.

Trump didn't shrink the GOP. He expanded the GOP to 77 million.

Massie ain't right.

[FreeReign]

After Massie gets his ass kicked in next year’s primary, he will become a well-paid contributor to MSNOW or CNN.

[FreeReign]

After Massie gets his ass kicked in next year’s primary, he will become a well-paid contributor to MSNOW or CNN.

Yup. I predicted that several days ago.