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1 posted on 11/03/2025 7:35:37 AM PST by MtnClimber
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2 posted on 11/03/2025 7:36:14 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Vietnam has quietly vindicated U.S. sacrifice

Not by a long shot.
3 posted on 11/03/2025 7:41:56 AM PST by ComputerGuy
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https://www.biometricupdate.com/202407/vietnams-digital-identity-transformation-taking-shape (July 2024)

Vietnam’s digital identity transformation taking shape

Digital transformation is progressing in Vietnam as the country’s government pursues “Project 06” to modernize its economy and public services. The new national identity system is a cornerstone of the digital transformation plan, which includes civil registration, digital ID and authentication.

With the transition from outdated paper-based identification systems to sophisticated, biometric-based digital IDs, millions of citizens will have better access to their data and improved protection from cybercrime. This digital ID card will integrate multiple public services, including healthcare and social insurance, to make them more efficient and accessible.

from another article..

VNeID, or Vietnam Electronic Identification, is the official digital identity platform and "super app" from Vietnam's Ministry of Public Security. It's a key part of Vietnam's digital transformation plan to create a digital government, digital economy, and digital society by 2030. The platform uses a central national database for identity, population, and authentication, providing a unified digital ID for everyone in the country.


Well at least they’re not socialists..

None of what’s going on in Vietnam - and a lot of other countries, like "our friend" Argentina - is compatible with democracy. Articles like this are PR, pure and simple.

4 posted on 11/03/2025 7:52:17 AM PST by yelostar (AI will be the scapegoat when the SHTF. )
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From Co-Pilot:

**Religious freedom in Vietnam remains highly restricted, with increasing government control and repression of independent religious groups.**

Vietnam’s approach to religious freedom is shaped by its one-party system under the Communist Party of Vietnam (CPV), which tightly regulates religious activities. While the constitution nominally guarantees freedom of belief and religion, the reality is far more constrained:

### 🔒 Government Control and Legal Restrictions
- **The Law on Belief and Religion (LBR)** imposes a multistage registration process for religious groups, giving authorities broad discretion to approve or deny recognition.
- Local officials often use vague provisions tied to “national security” or “social unity” to arbitrarily restrict religious practices.
- The government favors **state-sponsored religious organizations**, marginalizing independent groups and denying them legal status.

### 🚨 Repression and Crackdowns
- In 2024, Vietnam saw **one of the most aggressive crackdowns on dissent in decades**, targeting religious minorities alongside journalists and activists.
- The United States Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF) recommended Vietnam be designated a **“Country of Particular Concern”** due to escalating violations.
- Reports include **arrests of Khmer Krom activists**, surveillance of former political prisoners, and harassment of unregistered religious communities.

### 📉 Civil Liberties and Broader Context
- Vietnam scored **20 out of 100** in Freedom House’s 2025 report, classifying it as “Not Free.” Religious freedom is part of a broader pattern of restricted civil liberties.
- The CPV’s dominance means **opposition voices and independent religious leaders** face systemic suppression, often under the guise of maintaining social order.

### 🛐 Impact on Religious Communities
- Minority groups such as **Montagnard Christians, Hmong Protestants, and independent Buddhists** frequently report harassment, denial of worship rights, and forced renunciations of faith.
- Even mainstream groups like the Catholic Church must navigate **state interference**, especially in leadership appointments and property use.

Vietnam’s religious landscape is marked by a duality: formal guarantees of freedom on paper, and pervasive control and repression in practice. Independent religious expression is often treated as a threat to state authority.

**Vietnamese citizens can generally travel within the country freely, but international travel is subject to government control and can be restricted for political or legal reasons.**

Here’s a breakdown of travel freedom for Vietnamese citizens:


How easy is it for citizens to leave Vietnam?

### 🧭 Domestic Travel

- However, **ethnic minorities and religious groups** in remote areas may face surveillance or restrictions, especially if they are involved in activism or unregistered religious activities.

### ✈️ International Travel
- **Vietnamese citizens can apply for passports and travel abroad**, but the process is tightly regulated.
- The government can **deny or delay passport issuance** for individuals deemed politically sensitive or involved in activism.
- **Exit bans** are occasionally imposed on dissidents, former prisoners, or those under investigation.
- For most citizens, **tourism and labor migration are common reasons for travel**, especially to countries in Southeast Asia, Europe, and North America.
- Vietnam’s passport ranks moderately in global mobility indexes, offering **visa-free or visa-on-arrival access to around 55 countries**.
### 🛂 Government Oversight
- The Ministry of Public Security monitors international travel, especially for those with political or religious affiliations.
- Citizens returning from abroad may be questioned or monitored, particularly if they attended conferences, met with foreign NGOs, or expressed dissent.

In short, while everyday domestic travel is easy and international travel is possible for most, **political and religious factors can significantly limit mobility for certain individuals**.


5 posted on 11/03/2025 7:56:14 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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This is only serious and believable if it continues. More likely, supporters will be murdered.

That is the way of commies.


6 posted on 11/03/2025 7:59:39 AM PST by bobbo666
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Vietnam, Poland, the Czech Republic, and Hungary all abandoning socialism. New York set to embrace it.


8 posted on 11/03/2025 8:05:16 AM PST by Rummyfan (Ok In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support lthe civilized man.👨 )
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Vietnam is now no different from any one-party state in Africa or Asia, a state which simply seeks to preserve its power and corruption wealth, while maintaining stability and steadily developing the nation. Unlike Africa though, Vietnam the intelligence and energy of Vietnamese behind it.

In fact, we can say for our foreign relations, that this post-Soviet one-party socialism is preferable - as there is NO globalist or religious-radical component to it. It’s all about materialism, money and nation-building. The standard model of diplomacy in the 18th and 19th centuries.

One could even argue WE are more leftist-ideological than they are.


11 posted on 11/03/2025 8:15:06 AM PST by PGR88
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The Vietnamese rulers are practical people, being Vietnamese. When the old revoluttionaries died off they accelerated the move away from socialism which had started in the 80s when the rulers understood two realities. One, that they themselves, were going to experience famine because China had stopped sending food aid to the country as it was disastrously experimenting with agricultural collectivization. The Party got off the necks of the farmers in the 80s and Việt Nam which had been falling into famine was exporting massive amounts of rice within two years. The younger officials also understood that Việt Nam must become rapidly prosperous in order to support a large and modern military in order to avoid becoming again a province of China. They are not blinded by Marxism. In the nineties they began to free up private enterprise culminating in reversing their repressive attitude toward Catholics in about 2004-5 who had become the business class in the country already but were sub rosa.

Catholics had been restricted from employment in government, large and/or foreign industries, etc. They wer, however allowed to go to university and many did, becoming engineers and accountants and managers who were then not allowed to work as employees. They compensated by building consulting companies and hired their services to the government agencies and to the big companies they were not allowed to work directly for. Some Party smart guys figured out that they were paying a lot more for "" services than would be the case if they had hired those people directly. so those restrictions came off.

Buddhists are, themselves rational and observant people and not wedded to one type of system. They saw that the Catholics could trade in international markets and build businesses because Christians trust each other to make and keep bargains. Almost all other cultures can only trust members of their families and clans which limits them.

Việt Nam is becoming prosperous at a rapid rate. It is not Chinese capitalism which is actually State capitalism and is showing signs of failing because governments tend to make wrong decisions.

13 posted on 11/03/2025 8:30:29 AM PST by ThanhPhero
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Vietnamese are very pragmatic people. If it don’t work, stop doing it...........


15 posted on 11/03/2025 8:45:15 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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“The war exacted an enormous cost: estimates of Vietnamese soldiers and civilians killed range from 970,000 to 3 million. Some 275,000–310,000 Cambodians, 20,000–62,000 Laotians, and 58,220 US service members died”. It only took that many dead bodies to figure out that socialism/communism might not be the right way to govern.


16 posted on 11/03/2025 8:51:21 AM PST by kawhill ("And we'll do what we must, and we'll cry without making a sound". Corbin, John)
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You cannot "abandon" socialism.

You must DEFEAT socialism.

19 posted on 11/03/2025 9:11:27 AM PST by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump )
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Over 2 million people died there after we left Vietnam because the democrats supported the communists.


23 posted on 11/03/2025 10:28:24 PM PST by minnesota_bound (Making money now. Still want much more.)
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