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Are we really giving 20 billion to Argentina?

Posted on 10/30/2025 8:47:00 AM PDT by Mount Athos

Is it a done deal or was it just a trial balloon to see how people would feel about it?


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: argentina; stupidvanity
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To: Mount Athos

Now go take the Malvinas back. 😈


21 posted on 10/30/2025 9:07:03 AM PDT by Allegra (Thank you for your attention to this matter.)
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To: AZJeep

I do recall Milei wanting to ‘dollarize’ the currency. Does that mean the currency will change? I’d be a lot more convenient for tourists. I do believe Panama uses the dollar.


22 posted on 10/30/2025 9:07:46 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Investing in Argentina.... historically an amazing bet. Hint, if it was “investing”, the big banks would be buying all they could.


23 posted on 10/30/2025 9:10:10 AM PDT by DesertRhino (When men on the chessboard, get up and tell you where to go…)
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To: Mount Athos
This and the action in Venezuela are Trump trying to revive the Monroe Doctrine, to make the Western Hemisphere an American playground for business. He apparently sees American support for Milleli to restore free enterprise in Argentina as helping his electoral success as key to that strategy.

Trump as the dealmaker would see $20 billion as a cheap investment toward those ends. My take as to his overall strategy is that the squeeze is on with Brazil as key to breaking BRICS and Dumping Maduro along the way as a bonus. We'll see what the Chinese do in response. Russia's move in Nicaragua is certainly a wake-up call in that regard.

24 posted on 10/30/2025 9:10:16 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: dfwgator

He won’t speak English anyways...


25 posted on 10/30/2025 9:10:19 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: bobbo666
This all is a last-chance roll of the dice. If the US/DJT wins, the human race has some breathing space. If not, over population will not be a concern. Ever.

I used to be a more purist libertarian. In this case, we might say "why should we subsidize Argentina and their failed policies?"

But I started to realize years ago that while we sit back and say "let nature take its course and common sense and virtue will ultimately prevail" there are dark, collectivist forces who are always manipulating and scheming for power, even at the lowest levels - from kindergartens to businesses to national economies.

One can't fight every battle, and often doing "nothing" IS a good policy. So one has to have wisdom about which fights to be involved in - and above all, realize there are often highly organized, evil people, working behind the scenes almost non-stop.

26 posted on 10/30/2025 9:10:52 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: dfwgator

‘Cause they won’t speak English anyways...


27 posted on 10/30/2025 9:11:06 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Red Badger

We are not “giving”. We are investing. Trump bet big on their election and won.


28 posted on 10/30/2025 9:13:19 AM PDT by iamgalt
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To: dfwgator
Argentina has the resources to be one of the most prosperous countries in the world.

I visited Argentina many times for business, at least before Milei came to office. I have always told people: "Argentina has to try hard to be poor. And in many ways, they succeed!"

It has/had the same sort of corrupt socialist/crony system that many African Governments have. But unlike Africa, Argentina with its European culture. EU/Christian population/society, and their new-world "cowboy" spirit (not unlike how we Americans view ourselves) people still make a decent life for themselves and a respectable society, in spite of the burden their bloated government and corrupt socialism puts on them.

29 posted on 10/30/2025 9:19:30 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Mount Athos
The kind of loan that no sensible financial institution would ever make.
About as likely as Ukraine paying back its loans.


Apples and oranges. Millei is a libertarian who is slashing the corrupt government workforce, and atopped inflating the money supply in typical Latin Aerican fashion.

He is also cleaning a mess left by decades of corruption and bad policy.

This is truly an investment in a country on the rebound doing the right thing, and one that can be an example to the folks in Colombia, Venezuela and Brazil as to how it is done.

A few years ago Chile righted its economic ship and made good on loans.
30 posted on 10/30/2025 9:20:37 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: Dr. Sivana

ok fair points


31 posted on 10/30/2025 9:22:52 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

The short answer is....NO...


32 posted on 10/30/2025 9:27:05 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Helping out the Argentine President up for election in 2 weeks s a 3d thing. Trump’s action turned “squeaking by” into a massive win.


33 posted on 10/30/2025 9:31:07 AM PDT by spintreebob (In)
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To: Mount Athos
About as likely as Ukraine paying back its loans. Hey it’s not too late for us to flush to a few hundred billion more on Ukraine while we’re at it

We gave money and mostly weapons to Ukraine so that they could destroy the Russian army. Putin, with the #2 military in the world has had to ask for North Korean soldiers and weapons.

34 posted on 10/30/2025 9:31:38 AM PDT by tlozo (“We get a lot of bullshit thrown at us by Putin, if you want to know the truth,” Trump)
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To: Mount Athos

Ukraine was given its money. That is why Little z has continued to be mad at any hint of pay back.

In the past, the US built military bases and had to curry favor financially with countries. Isn’t it better to encourage a healthy relationship with a country fighting its Deep State, with just an exchange, rather than so much more?

This is an excellent deal. It is along the lines of paying African countries to house our illegals. We are paying to wipe out a Deep State and support sanity in a reasonably-sized country that is an ally.

With Israel, we give without assuring anything comes back. We generally hope the money is used well with an ally.


35 posted on 10/30/2025 9:37:26 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Red Badger

“Yes, and no, the U.S. government, under the Trump administration, agreed to provide a $20 billion financial package to Argentina in October 2025.
However, this is not a direct gift or grant but a currency swap agreement, which functions as a loan.
Under this arrangement, the U.S. exchanges U.S. dollars for Argentine pesos to help stabilize Argentina’s currency and economy.
The funds are drawn from the U.S. Treasury’s Exchange Stabilization Fund, which can be used without congressional approval.”

Thankyou for the explanation. People can ‘debate’ on it, but 20 billion currency stabilization loan is better than another drug running narco terrorist ‘socialist’ utopia. This is probably the best 20 billion dollar ‘loan’ in recent history as it could help a country transition from disastrous socialism/fascism to a healthy economy.


36 posted on 10/30/2025 9:38:56 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: Red Badger
Yup. It's not a gift or loan: it's basically the US Treasury shoring up the Argentine Peso buy buying and holding $20 billion in Pesos. More like a foreign exchange futures contract.

With Milei's party winning, we actually stand to make money on the deal.

37 posted on 10/30/2025 9:42:08 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Mount Athos

The US Treasury Department has indeed finalized and signed a $20 billion currency swap agreement with Argentina’s central bank as of October 2025, aimed at providing dollar liquidity to stabilize the Argentine peso amid the country’s ongoing economic crisis.

pbs.org +2

This is not an outright gift but a temporary exchange where the US provides dollars in return for pesos, with an agreement to swap back at a later date—essentially a short-term loan from the Treasury’s Exchange Stabilization Fund to prevent a deeper currency collapse.

snopes.com +1

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has emphasized that this is not a bailout and that US taxpayers won’t lose money, as the deal includes safeguards like interest and collateral expectations.

cnn.com +1

The agreement was contingent on Argentine President Javier Milei’s party performing well in the October 26, 2025, midterm legislative elections, which served as a referendum on his libertarian reforms.

pbs.org +1

Milei’s La Libertad Avanza party secured a decisive victory, gaining a stronger mandate in Congress, so the deal is proceeding without that hurdle.

reuters.com +2

There’s also talk of an additional $20 billion from private sector sources (e.g., banks and sovereign wealth funds), which could bring the total package to $40 billion, though the private portion remains uncertain due to challenges in securing collateral.

snopes.com +2

This move by the Trump administration is driven more by geopolitical strategy than pure economics: It bolsters Milei as a key ally, counters China’s growing influence in Argentina (particularly in lithium and infrastructure), and addresses fallout from US-China trade tensions, where Argentina has benefited from increased soybean exports to China at the expense of US farmers.

pbs.org +2

Critics, including Democrats like Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar, argue it prioritizes foreign aid over domestic issues like the US farm crisis and risks entangling the US in Argentina’s chronic debt problems without solving root causes.

pbs.org +1

As of October 30, 2025, the $20 billion from the US is available and active, with the US already buying pesos on the open market to support the arrangement.

buenosairesherald.com +1


38 posted on 10/30/2025 9:45:39 AM PDT by big bad easter bunny
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To: Mount Athos

Every idiot is entitled to his opinion.


39 posted on 10/30/2025 10:18:04 AM PDT by TheConservator
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To: Mount Athos

It is important to the U.S. interests in the region that South American politicians like the leader of Argentina succeed. He is trying to turn around a national economy ruined by decades of Leftist-Peronist rule. It’s worth the U.S. “investment”.


40 posted on 10/30/2025 10:20:07 AM PDT by Wuli
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