Posted on 10/14/2025 2:28:46 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
America’s largest business lobby, the US Chamber of Commerce, is exploring legal action against the Trump administration’s decision to impose a $100,000 fee on new H-1B visa applications, Bloomberg reported. The move has reignited debate on the role of Indian professionals in the US economy and the political calculations behind Washington’s tightening visa rules.
Chamber officials this week consulted member companies in a series of calls and virtual meetings to test support for a lawsuit. The consultations reflect widespread unease among large corporations, particularly technology firms, which are the heaviest users of the H-1B programme.
The Chamber had previously challenged a Trump-era proclamation in 2020 that suspended new nonimmigrant visas, a case it won in federal court. This time, its ability to move forward hinges on convincing companies to join the lawsuit and demonstrate legal harm.
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The fee announcement followed months of campaigns by Trump’s political base targeting Indian professionals on social media. Critics argue this move undermines America’s own competitiveness, as Indian workers are among the most educated, highest-earning, and most assimilated immigrant groups in the country.
(Excerpt) Read more at m.economictimes.com ...
Should be shut down and its assets seized for bein an unregistered agent of foreign powers, and conspiring to commit visa fraud.
“If you can’t unravel a complex problem into a number of actionable steps, your critical thinking capabilities are subpar.”
System design is usually done by highly experienced people.
It’s not done by students or recent college graduates.
Thank you for a reality based post! We all agree that America should be filling positions with native personnel, but the cold, hard facts don’t support that view. For the past sixty years American schools have been too damn busy with social engineering to train any damn engineers. We get exited now if our kids can read and do simple math when graduating high school. Our schools have no academic standards—beyond DEI and black history and liberal fairy tales. When my own kids were in elementary school I told their teachers that if the curriculum wasn’t returned to what it was in the past, this country would be in a world of hurt. I have nothing against Indians, or even Chinese people... most of the ones you deal with on a daily basis speak English better than Americans. They seldom end up being a burden on society, and more than pull their own weight. I have a degree in mathematics, and I know a lot of secondary school teachers, my assessment and a lot of teachers assessment of our currant public school population is; we are raising a generation of people unprepared to compete in the modern world. India and China—— not so much.
I hope to hell you forgot to post the “/sarc”...
Oh, there are many bright American kids, and not all education is bad.
We do not need everybody being STEM genius.
The main reason many Americans do not study STEM is that the jobs are not there!
Most are taken by H1B people!
It is Catch-22
Wont fix american substandard unless there is emergency need.
This is created emergency need.
These wonderful Indians ought fix ZIndia. Obviously they have good education. Now fix the problems. Brain drain to America does not help the country that gave them all this brain power.
“unfortunately the passion isn’t there”
American students need to be assured that there’s “Opportunity” at an “Equal Opportunity” employer so they are motivated to learn.
There are always going to be people from hellholes outside the USA that will work for less than Americans will.
A corporation should not be able cast an American onto a $20,000/year/person welfare system to save $1/hour/employee on its labor costs.
Are Americans to be so undermined economically that they need to have 100% of their health care cost coverage premiums paid by others?
“There are 750,000 current H1B holders. H1Bs steal American jobs. Those who defend H1Bs are not MAGA, are not for Americans.”
Agreed. H1B suppresses job opportunities and wages for American STEM workers. Which in turn suppresses American interest in STEM work.
“The main reason many Americans do not study STEM is that the jobs are not there!
Most are taken by H1B people!
It is Catch-22”
Agreed. MIGA!
“We should be focused on making American schools better.”
What are the Asian Indian educators doing that our lavishly paid K-12 educators aren’t doing?
Are the textbooks better in India?
“MICROSOFT TEALS
“Technology Education and Literacy in Schools (TEALS) is a Microsoft Philanthropies program that builds sustainable CS programs in high schools. We focus on serving students excluded from learning CS because of race, gender, and geography. TEALS helps teachers learn to teach CS by pairing them with industry volunteers and proven curricula to team-teach computer science. Industry volunteers and partner teachers create a ripple effect, directly impacting the students they teach, increasing the likelihood that they will be prepared for the future economy.”
https://www.stemforward.org/ms-teals
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“We thank these caretakers of this land who have lived and continue to live here since time immemorial. We reflect on the historic context that brings us to reside on this land and accept responsibility to interrupt erasure. We are committed to our ongoing partnership with the Snoqualmie Tribe as we listen to, learn from, and lead with their guidance.
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“America’s largest business lobby explores lawsuit against Trump’s H-1B visa fee”
I guess expecting a reasonable reform proposal from them is a bit much.
Too true
Are you claiming that Indian conservatives donate to Free Republic and they risk losing those donations? that is a laugh. 1st most Indians are liberal and 2nd they are cheap as hell. Ever serve a table full of Indians, you will be lucky to get a $5 tip.
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Reinforcing learning with practical application and inspiring students. Our teachers are underpaid, overworked, and more concerned with politics, gender, and DEI than making sure they're churning out students who pass muster with an advanced workforce.
Since they can replace a 100K per year American tech worker with a 50K per year H1B from India or China, I think we all know the answer to this question.
While it's true that the average US high school graduate does poorly in math and science compared to the average high school graduate from other advanced economies, the average high school graduate isn't the typical competitor for computer programming or engineering jobs - the US college graduate who majored in engineering or computer science is. And those are as good or better than the comparable cohort from India or China - otherwise American students would be clamoring to attend Indian or Chinese universities rather than vice-versa.
So the claim that there's a shortage of well-qualified American engineers and programmers is a complete myth, peddled by Silicon Valley Oligarchs as a pretext for replacing expensive American workers with cheap H1B tech workers. They sell the lie using an apples to oranges comparison.
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