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How President Trump’s H-1B visa changes could impact Big Tech
CNBC ^ | 10/9/2025 | Jeff Huang

Posted on 10/09/2025 10:43:44 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

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said Jeff Joseph, president of the American Immigration Lawyers Association
1 posted on 10/09/2025 10:43:44 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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The Delphi Technique: Overview and Potential for ManipulationThe "Delphi technique" (often just called the Delphi method) is a structured group communication process originally developed in the 1950s by the RAND Corporation for the U.S. military. It was designed to gather expert opinions on complex, uncertain topics—like forecasting technological impacts on warfare—through iterative, anonymous questionnaires and controlled feedback rounds. The goal is to build consensus without the biases of face-to-face discussions, such as dominant voices or groupthink. Over time, it evolved into a tool for decision-making in fields like healthcare, policy, and education.In its standard form, Delphi is neutral and evidence-based: Experts respond anonymously, receive summarized feedback (e.g., averages or trends from prior rounds), revise their views, and iterate until convergence. It's praised for fostering thoughtful, collective insights but criticized for potential rigidity or facilitator influence.However, a darker adaptation emerged in the 1970s–1980s, where elements of Delphi were repurposed as a manipulation tactic in public meetings, workshops, and forums. This "consensus-building" process is allegedly used by change agents (e.g., facilitators hired by organizations or governments) to steer discussions toward predetermined outcomes, making participants feel like they've shaped decisions while subtly sidelining dissent. This twisted version—sometimes called the "Delphi Technique of Manipulation"—relies on psychological tricks to create an illusion of agreement, and it has been accused of enabling divisive agendas, including those that foster racism or social polarization.How the Manipulative Version Works on Forums or Online DiscussionsIn online forums, comment sections, or virtual town halls (e.g., Reddit, Discord, or community boards), this technique can be adapted by bad actors—trolls, bots, or coordinated groups—to amplify harmful narratives. Here's a step-by-step breakdown of how it might play out to foster racism:Seed the Discussion with Loaded Prompts: The "facilitator" (or a sock-puppet account) posts a seemingly neutral question or scenario that subtly invokes racial stereotypes. For example: "How do we address rising crime in diverse neighborhoods?" This frames the issue in a way that invites biased responses without overt racism.

Anonymous or Pseudonymous Input Rounds: Participants post opinions iteratively. Moderators or high-upvote comments provide "feedback" (e.g., summaries like "Most agree cultural differences play a role"), anonymizing sources to reduce accountability. Dissenting views are downvoted, buried, or reframed as "extreme."

Controlled Feedback and Revision: Summaries highlight "consensus" toward racist conclusions (e.g., "80% see immigration as a strain on resources"). Participants are nudged to revise toward this via polls or follow-ups, creating bandwagon effects. Outliers are isolated—e.g., labeled "too sensitive" or "not seeing the data." Divide and Conquer: Agitators provoke anger: Pro-racist comments escalate tensions, while anti-racist ones are painted as "divisive." This alienates moderates, forcing them into echo chambers. Per critics like Lynn Stuter (in anti-UN Agenda 21 writings), facilitators predict and exploit reactions to accelerate polarization.

False Consensus as Outcome: The thread "concludes" with a manufactured agreement (e.g., "The group agrees: We need stricter borders to preserve community values"). This normalizes racism, making it seem like organic forum sentiment.

This mirrors real-world uses in "visioning" sessions for urban planning or education reform, where outcomes are preset (e.g., by corporate or governmental interests) to push policies that exacerbate inequalities, like zoning that segregates by race/economics.Evidence of Use in Racist ContextsHistorical Claims: Conservative and libertarian sources (e.g., The Times Examiner, 2013) describe it as a "Communist reeducation program" adapted for U.S. policy manipulation, including in schools where it allegedly squeezes out parents opposing "multicultural" curricula that critics say promote division. No peer-reviewed studies confirm widespread racist deployment, but anecdotal reports tie it to 1990s "sustainable development" forums, where environmental pretexts masked exclusionary (often racially tinged) land-use decisions.

Online Examples: On platforms like Reddit or X (formerly Twitter), coordinated campaigns (e.g., alt-right brigading) use Delphi-like iteration: Initial posts seed bias, upvotes simulate feedback, and revisions build "consensus" memes like "It's not racism, it's realism." A 2018 X post highlighted furry convention harassment by racists using organized threats—echoing manipulative escalation tactics. Broader web searches show no large-scale exposés, but conspiracy-adjacent sites (e.g., vlrc.org) warn of its use in "globalist" agendas to erode community cohesion via racial wedges.

Counterexamples and Critiques: Legitimate Delphi studies combat racism, e.g., a 2021 study on anti-racist school counseling competencies or 2022 food allergy research promoting racial equity. This highlights the technique's neutrality—manipulation depends on the user's intent. Social psychologists note Delphi's vulnerability to bias if feedback is skewed, per a 2011 Technological Forecasting paper.

Aspect Legitimate Delphi Manipulative Adaptation (on Forums) Anonymity Protects honest input Hides agitators; enables sock-puppets Feedback Neutral summaries for revision Cherry-picked to push bias (e.g., amplify stereotypes) Consensus Goal Explore truth/forecast Manufacture agreement for division Outcome Evidence-based decisions Polarized echo chambers fostering hate Risk of Racism Low (if diverse panel) High (subtly normalizes stereotypes)

Why It Fosters Racism Specifically Racism thrives on "illusory consensus"—making prejudiced views feel majority-held. By isolating dissenters (e.g., muting anti-racist voices in threads), it exploits confirmation bias, per social psych research. In diverse online spaces, this can radicalize lurkers: A 2023 X post noted how "concern trolling" (fake empathy masking bias) uses similar iterative nudges. Substantiated by patterns in alt-right recruitment (e.g., 4chan to mainstream forums), where "redpilling" mimics feedback loops to erode empathy.Critics argue this is overhyped paranoia (e.g., Wikipedia frames Delphi as benign), but real harms—like Gamergate's escalation via forum manipulation—show how it scales online. To counter: Demand transparency in moderation, call out loaded framing, and amplify diverse voices early.If this isn't what you meant (e.g., the 2021 AI "Delphi" ethics model, which infamously output racist judgments due to biased training data from forums like Reddit), clarify for a deeper dive!

2 posted on 10/09/2025 10:47:19 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: marcusmaximus

I don’t care Mr. Joseph. Y’all are getting off easy with $100k. Should be more like $250k and apply to renewals. Yeah it’s a lot but the truly best and brightest will be worth it.


3 posted on 10/09/2025 10:47:36 AM PDT by vmpolesov
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To: marcusmaximus

Big Tech can do lots to restore American employees. They need to get involved in making sure we have the American-born talent that they need.
1. Work with K-12 education to emphasize STEM. Sponsor job and career fairs. Sponsor science fairs (Intel was aggressively doing this decades ago).
2. Work with universities to recruit and train Americans in tech. Get universities to abandon the loser DEI / “ism” / studies crap that churns out stupid college graduates who contribute NOTHING to our society and nation. Sponsor graduate degree programs; conceive and pay for innovative university graduate level research.
3. Create job training programs for recent graduates.
4. Then, HIRE AMERICANS at prevailing wages.


4 posted on 10/09/2025 10:49:08 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: JonPreston

Have you started packing for your move to Calcutta?


5 posted on 10/09/2025 10:54:23 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: marcusmaximus

And just like that, there were no Ukraine posts any more.

6 posted on 10/09/2025 10:56:04 AM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The Engineering programs are overflowing with people.

A lot are foreign, but that’s because the American kids know they haven’t got a chance of getting hired when facing DEI hiring practices, hostile H1B engineering managers and worse, foreign professors who favor their own and screw the White kids whenever possible.

The schools don’t look like they did in the ‘70s. And the job market definitely doesn’t.


7 posted on 10/09/2025 10:56:06 AM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The free market and higher wages will incentivize more of our best students to switch to STEM. There is ZERO need to do anything.

Trust the free market for labor FOR ONCE. Allow the invisible hand to work.


8 posted on 10/09/2025 10:57:42 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: JonPreston

Yep - I’d forgotten about The Delphi Technique.

This is it. Watch the challenges you get on this.


9 posted on 10/09/2025 10:57:42 AM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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...by limiting the ability of foreign talent to enter the United States...

In a few cases, yes, but this was never really about talent.
10 posted on 10/09/2025 10:58:39 AM PDT by ComputerGuy
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To: ComputerGuy

Yep.


11 posted on 10/09/2025 10:59:28 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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Universities make a LOT more money from foreign students. They chase the money.

We’ve had two decades of liberals telling young men they are worthless. We are paying a price for that.

Yes, high school students who contemplate going into tech understand they have dismal job prospects after four or six years. So they don’t go into tech.

All these things can be turned around with the help of tech companies and President Trump.


12 posted on 10/09/2025 11:03:28 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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Things were horribly stacked against American graduates. That was done by government AND industry. They need to change their ways. President Trump can force that. Unfortunately the “invisible hand” is not at work or at least not in favor of US students. Universities make way too much money off foreign students. The foreign thumb on the scale is very bad. Prof. Victor Hanson rails against this constantly.


13 posted on 10/09/2025 11:05:44 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

This IS the turn around. Get it?


14 posted on 10/09/2025 11:06:03 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Stop immigration PERIOD. Nothing else needs to be done from govt.


15 posted on 10/09/2025 11:07:37 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: marcusmaximus

Maybe Americans might get hired now.


16 posted on 10/09/2025 11:19:03 AM PDT by CodeToad
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“Have you started packing for your move to Calcutta?”

Love it! ROFL!


17 posted on 10/09/2025 11:19:34 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: central_va; kiryandil

You have the trade issue going for you, that’s it. On everything else you register on par with a box of rocks.


18 posted on 10/09/2025 11:42:08 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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Racism and Xenophobia are lefrest words.


19 posted on 10/09/2025 11:55:18 AM PDT by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMEbRICA AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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Why ate you siding with globalist policies?


20 posted on 10/09/2025 11:56:43 AM PDT by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMEbRICA AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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