Ex-Jets QB Mark Sanchez Stabbed in Indianapolis, Hospitalized

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[ClearCase_guy]

Jets v Sharks?

Or does Scott Adams have an opinion?

[Hyman Roth]

My dad always told me. Nothing good happens after midnight. Were the perps still upset over the butt fumble?

[CaptainK]

Isn’t Indianapolis the city where the two white people got the crap beaten out of them by a black crowd?When a big brawny football player isn’t safe, stay far far away.

[Political Junkie Too]

Isn't he the guy that Tim Tebow replaced, and then the Jets front line wouldn't protect Tebow during their games?

-PJ

[Puppage]

My dad, too.

[God luvs America]

Cincinnati

[pepsi_junkie]

I'm not sure about that o-line part but could be, the Jets is a totally broken franchise. But I think Tebow just played backup in NY. His NFL career in a nutshell: everyone said he is a terrible QB but he took a bad team to the playoffs and playoff win in half a decade, then they traded him to the jets for a bag of rocks, and the Jets wouldn't play him.

Analysis: the NFL didn't like his outspoken Jesus talk, they think it's cute when black guys do it and don't take it seriously, but when it was a prominent white guy ... he had to go.

[Political Junkie Too]

No, Tebow was the starting QB for one season after the Jets replaced Sanchez.

I remember likening Tebow with the scene from the movie "Heaven Can Wait" with Warren Beatty.

Beatty played Joe Pendleton, a QB for the LA Rams who was in a bicycle accident in a tunnel and taken prematurely to heaven by an angel (Buck Henry). Mr. Jorday (James Mason) agrees to return Pendleton to earth in the body of a multimillionaire Joe Farnsworth who was killed by his wife's lover.

Pendleton, as Farnsworth, wants to play football for the Rams, so he buys the team and demands to try out for the QB position. The coach and players, not knowing that he's really Pendleton, don't take his tryout seriously, and the offensive line refuses to block him while the defensive line runs through unobstructed to tackle Farnsworth roughly.

After several downs of this, Farnsworth pleads with the team to just let him throw one pass. When they relent, Farnsworth throws a perfect spiral downfield for a catch, and the team begins to take him seriously during the rest of the tryout.

It's that early failure of the front line to protect Farnsworth that reminded me of the Jets' front line, which looked to me like they wanted Tebow to fail. Maybe they just sucked, but maybe they played just hard enough to not be blamed for throwing the game, but not strong enough to protect Tebow from the other team's defense?

That's what it looked like to me.

-PJ

[nickcarraway]

I think you have it a little off. Mark Sanchez was the starting QB when Tebow was there, and the following year. Tebow was the third stringer, barely got in and threw eight passes in his one year on the Jets. Where do you get the idea the line won’t block for him?

[nickcarraway]

Wasn’t that Cincy?

[Political Junkie Too]

Where do you get the idea the line won’t block for him?

From my recollection that they never held the pocket long enough for Tebow to get off a pass. He had maybe five seconds before the pocket collapsed and Tebow had to either scramble or get sacked, IIRC.

-PJ

[CaptainK]

My mistake

[nickcarraway]

No, Tebow was the starting QB for one season after the Jets replaced Sanchez.

Your memory is faulty. Tebow was on the Jets in 2012, and Sanchez started 15 games that year. Tebow was cut after the season, and Sanchez was still on the Jets in 2013, although he ended up being injured the entire season.

He only threw 8 passes his entire time with the Jets.

The media and John Elway hated Tebow, his teammates seemed to like hum. Where do you get this idea the line wouldn't block for him?

[pepsi_junkie]

Opinion: the NFL decides what it wants and doesn't want and the media and teams all get in line. for example look at the so-called tush push play the Eagles run. First they said they wanted to ban it for player safety (even though literally nobody has ever been injured on that play) but failed to get enough votes, supposedly because some teams were not happy about banning a legal play just because one team was way light years better than anyone else at it. Then they started saying 'look, it's so tight you just can't officiate it properly.' Everyone saying that, NFL officials, media, teams, etc. All the same line - can't officiate it. Meanwhile QB sneaks, fumble recovery piles, etc all exist and apparantly they are easy.

No, NFL wants something gone they eventually get their way. They wanted Tebow gone, and they will ban the tush push come hell or high water, bet on it.

[Political Junkie Too]

I agree with that.

-PJ

[Political Junkie Too]

Thanks.

-PJ

[nickcarraway]

5 seconds? QBs a re supposed to get the ball off in 2.5 to 3 second. It might be a problem if your receivers aren't open, but after 3.25 seconds, the chances of a bad play go up.

If a team had a line that averaged 5 seconds would be fantastic. Even Philly doesn't get close.

[Political Junkie Too]

Maybe I guesstimated the time too long. I know it takes the average receiver about 3.5 seconds to run 30 yards downfield, so you're right that the QB would have to release the ball a few seconds before that so that the ball and receiver are in the same position at the same time.

But that doesn't apply to passes where the receiver runs downfield and then hooks or crosses; that adds a few more seconds to the play.

But even that suggests that the QB has only 1 second to release the ball, which I think is ludicrous. That gives practically no time for the play to develop, for the in-motion players to cross the backfield, etc.

-PJ

[Texas Eagle]

LOL! Talk about a thread going off the rails! This one never made it onto the tracks.

Dude was stabbed in the chest and everyone is analyzing Sanchez's career?

Gotta love FReepers.

I just hope Greg Olsen isn't a FReeper. He'd be telling us what he would've done or what he wouldn't have done or whether or not he agreed with what was done or how he faced a similar situation when he was with the Panthers and what Sanchez should do next and how this might affect the rest of the season and on and on and on and on and........