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Posted on 10/04/2025 2:53:05 AM PDT by RandFan
@SenRandPaul
This continuing resolution keeps spending at Biden’s reckless levels: no real cuts, no debt reduction. It’s the same old Washington game of borrowing more and ignoring fiscal responsibility.
We need to stop the spending spree and get government under control.
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The depths of stupidity this man will sink to in his quest for publicity are unbelievable.
Lol, when has Rand EVER been realistic?
It's not his personal call. We all want smaller government...but it takes time.
Praise God for the truth and Senator Paul who courageously expresses it!
Except his job is to represent “WE THE PEOPLE”....not just Rand Paul. And the PEOPLE say....open it up.
>> He will not bend and that’s why he’s so admired and respected
ROFL! Yeah, you can FEEL the LOVE for the libtard crap-for-brains here on this CONSERVATIVE site, can’t you?
I’ll bet RuPaul IS loved over at DU.
I think we want this to not pass now, right? Give Trump a few weeks to show that:
a. Government shutdowns are a big hoax. It shows that the gov’t can function without unessential people.
b. Expose the democrats and their boondoggle departments and pet projects.
Rand Paul should be happy.
Make all government jobs essential. Remove all nonessential jobs and spending. I was greatful to God and President Trump that Glacier National Park was open yesterday and a park ranger was faithfully on duty. He's essential! Our parks are essential!
Sometimes to see clearly one needs to step back and see the bigger picture. Rand Paul’s statement is asinine. It’s a fantasy. He is taking a position that reverberates with fiscal conservatives but in reality it makes no sense.
The house has been working on the 2026 budget and making good progress to be done on time for the first time in many years. They need a few weeks to get that work done in time for the Nov deadline. There are lots of cuts in the new budget.
Rather than voting to allow the Government to remain open for 7 weeks and get the new budget finalized Rand Paul votes to waste a tremendous amount of Federal dollars on a shutdown, impact the lives of service members and WIC. He says he’s doing it because the CR doesn’t cut spending.
What utter nonsense. Cutting spending in a CR is ridiculous. Not possible just a self-serving fig leaf for Paul’s irrelevance. If it takes months to get the 12 budget resolutions hammered out and passed how would the same care and diligence be achieved in a CR. Paul fools the same group over & over.
7 weeks!!! Man that’s a long time. /S
Hi RandFan - I hope you are well. I have never gamed out in my mind (or on paper) what happens during the shutdown that occurs periodically. If there is nothing done, can’t Congress move to the next budget year and pass appropriation bills for post October 1? If that is done, then the shutdown is a blessing in disguise as it prevents spending at exorbitant Biden levels. Then, in effect, the “new” post October 1 government can be funded and operated. Correct? If that is true, why the pressure to pass a CR? Couldn’t mop up appropriation bills take care of what is necessary? It would almost be similar to a business taking a Chapter 11 in bankruptcy. Prior debt moved aside, and start anew.
Just musing this morning as I plot how I can best prolong the shutdown.
Gwjack
Really good post this but sadly it’ll go over the heads of the team players who suggest we all fall in line
Rand will not .
They’ve been doing it this way for over 10 years (constant resolutions rather than budgets)
I dont know what happens next there will be some deal is my prediction as always
He represents Kentucky and is elected by them. He holds a constitutional office in a system where it is supposedly a co-equal branch of government
Nope...there is no need for a deal. Those Obama Care subsidies don’t end until Dec 31st.
That is exactly my point - why work with CRs (which, by the way) are not mentioned in the Constitution, and move forward and ignore them? Congress can still operate and pass appropriation bills and present to the President, for future programs. I can’t think of any entitlement to past obligations that were not authorized. Even on a quantum meruit basis, the cost would be much less than whatever is given in a CR.
Gwjack
It’s a stupid way of doing things but they do it around holidays for a reason so members get so frustrated they will vote for whatever their leaders want in order to go home.
Right?
That’s the only reason I can think of..
This CR will extend and run into your Thanksgiving and then XMAS....
Perhaps a little research. Rather then spending the money that is already being spent by the bloated Biden budget a shut down escalates costs sharply.
Direct costs
These are the immediate costs associated with government spending during a shutdown:
Back pay for federal employees: Despite being furloughed (placed on temporary leave), federal employees are required by law to receive back pay once the government reopens.
During the 16-day shutdown in 2013, furloughed employees received about $2.5 billion in back pay.
As of early October 2025, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimated that the daily cost of furloughed employee compensation was roughly $400 million.
Administrative costs: The process of shutting down and restarting government services is costly due to administrative work, contract renegotiations, and paying for unused leave.
Lost revenue: The government loses revenue from national park fees, application fees, and other charges that cannot be collected during a shutdown.
Economic impacts
A shutdown’s effects extend beyond the federal budget to the wider economy:
Reduced GDP: The loss of federal spending, consumer spending by unpaid employees, and halted government contracts can significantly reduce the country’s Gross Domestic Product (GDP).
The 35-day shutdown from 2018 to 2019 was estimated by the CBO to have reduced real GDP by $11 billion, including a permanent loss of $3 billion.
An October 2025 White House analysis suggests that a shutdown could reduce annualized quarterly GDP by approximately 0.2 percentage points for each week it continues.
Impacts on private business: Small businesses often face delays in processing federal loans and contracts, while other businesses may lose out on permits, certifications, and licenses. Federal contractors, unlike federal employees, are not guaranteed back pay.
Delayed services: Essential government data releases, such as jobs reports from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, may be delayed, creating greater economic uncertainty for businesses and investors.
Declining consumer confidence: When shutdowns drag on, the economic uncertainty can cause a drop in consumer and business confidence, which in turn can lead to lower consumer spending.
Costs in recent history
Previous shutdowns offer insight into the potential costs:
2018–2019 (35 days): The partial shutdown was estimated by the CBO to cost the economy $11 billion, with $3 billion in permanent losses.
2013 (16 days): A Senate report found that the shutdown cost taxpayers $4 billion, primarily in employee back pay and administrative expenses. The Joint Economic Committee estimated it reduced GDP growth by $20 billion.
That’s why Rand Paul’s actions and “justification” are so wrong.
Yes, Shutdown, Blame, Identify, DOGE.
What I’m thinking of is to slightly and generally increase the state Medicaid expansion share to 5% plus the highest rate of state income tax.
That would make Medicaid expansion cheaper for no income tax red states like Florida and Texas.
To help fund likely Medicaid expansion to states like Texas and Florida, the state Medicaid shares (traditional & expansion) would increase annually starting in 2028 by a percentage equal to the deficit in the fiscal year ending prior to the calendar year divided by $1 trillion. That would be a 1.5% increase for a $1.5 trillion deficit, or a .6% increase for a $600 billion deficit.
To also help fund likely Medicaid expansion to red states like Texas and Florida, I would impose these premium minimums, whichever is the higher:
1. 2% of the Medicare premium amount per insured year of age as of the start of coverage
2. a percentage of the premium amount equal to the household income percentage of FPL - 60% divided by 4
For a 5-year-old, 7-year-old, 32-year-old and 34-year-old, the ages would sum to 88 and for 1 the monthly absolute minimum premium amount would be a (88/65)*$185 or $250.46.
For a 5-year-old kid and a 27-year-old mom the ages would sum to 32 and for 1 the monthly absolute minimum premium amount would be (32/65)*$185 or $91.07.
To make all that palatable to the Democrats, I would lower the original PPACA subsidy threshold from 100% of FPL to 80% of FPL.
The maximum federal subsidy amount would go from 100% of the second cheapest copper plan at 80% of FPL to 0% at 400% of FPL.
Copper plans would be limited to a maximum deductible of three times the Medicare Part A amount (2025: $1676).
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