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3,000-Year-Old Discovery Reveals Surprising Clues to What May Have Accidentally Sparked the Dawn of the Iron Age
The Debrief ^ | September 29, 2025 | Tim McMillan

Posted on 09/30/2025 6:09:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: sopo

It’s also very possible iron smelting and working was independently discovered by different groups at different times who were all familiar with copper and bronze smelting and may have accidentally discovered iron smelting while using it as a flux for their copper smelting. I think the key was learning how to make kilns that were hot enough to work iron.


21 posted on 09/30/2025 8:17:49 PM PDT by Freedumb
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To: gundog

“Iron laying all over the ground in parts of North America. Injuns must not have been interested.”

Why? It wasn’t practical for them. There is a whole lot of time and work that goes into smelting metal. Why when they could just reach down pick up a stone and knap out a point in 15 minutes. They lost half of their arrows and points anyhow. Much more practical to replace lost stone points than metal points.

We still use stone because of it’s superior sharpness... It is 100 times sharper than metal.

https://record.umich.edu/articles/surgeons-use-stone-age-technology-for-delicate-surgery/


22 posted on 09/30/2025 8:32:45 PM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: Openurmind

Silly Europeans and their metal....


23 posted on 09/30/2025 8:37:57 PM PDT by gundog (The ends justify the mean tweets. )
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To: Freedumb

The trade routes they have worked out for those days are amazing,but different tribes may have tried to hold onto technological secrets.
Judges 1:19
And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.


24 posted on 09/30/2025 8:40:10 PM PDT by sopo
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To: sopo

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25 posted on 09/30/2025 10:27:02 PM PDT by Cronos
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26 posted on 09/30/2025 10:27:23 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Organic Panic

🍴


27 posted on 09/30/2025 10:29:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: sopo

It’s largely mythical, based on a very reasonable sounding idea — that copper replaced stone because it was better (and it probably ain’t for a lot of common uses of in prehistoric antiquity), that bronze was better than copper, that iron was found to be better than bronze, just so just so just so.

IMHO it’s goofy to use these as a date for anything, because it isn’t a real date at all. Some cultures were still using stone tools (the Americas were chock full of that) and didn’t develop bronze until at least a thousand years after its tool use declined in the “Old World”.

In any case, it’s better to use actual dates and date estimates based on the radiometric tools developed in the last 70-80 years. Back when these ‘ages’ were posited, there was stratigraphy and not much of anything else. Even dendrochronology antedates radiometic dating, but clearly using radiocarbon dating on individual tree rings helps calibrate the dates.


28 posted on 09/30/2025 10:38:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: SunkenCiv

-suggests that what had once been labeled an early iron-smelting site was actually a copper workshop that utilized iron oxides as a flux-

First flux capacitor. Maybe where Doc got the idea. ;-)


29 posted on 09/30/2025 10:48:14 PM PDT by week 71
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To: week 71

😁

btw, there were some apparent hooks left in the two sequels that could work out for something like that.


30 posted on 10/01/2025 12:00:54 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: Openurmind

Define “a 100 times sharper…”. I’m curious to hear that description.


31 posted on 10/01/2025 1:14:24 AM PDT by raybbr (The left is a poison on society. There is no antidote. Running its course will be painful. You )
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https://record.umich.edu/articles/surgeons-use-stone-age-technology-for-delicate-surgery/

https://www.cnn.com/2015/04/02/health/surgery-scalpels-obsidian

https://abavistwellness.com/obsidian-scalpel-blade-vs-steel-scalpel-blade/


32 posted on 10/01/2025 1:23:35 AM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: gundog

They were too busy killing each other...................


33 posted on 10/01/2025 5:07:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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