The Spirit of Aloha vs. the Second Amendment

statecourtreport.org ^ | 2/14/24 | alicia bannon

[from occupied ga]

This is not a new article, but the attitude of the court has bothered me for a long time. If you are a state of the USA, then you must adhere to the constitution of the USA. The constitution of the USA is interpreted for the inferior courts (INCLUDING YOU HAWAII) by the US Supreme court. When I read that the HI superior court interpreted the law via the "spirit of Aloha" I wondered when the Supremes would swat them down. Hasn't happened yet, and I've always wondered what in the hell the "spirit of Aloha was. Well now I came across some pictured that I think are the spirit of aloha. Here they are:

and another view

[kiryandil]

It would be nice to see those Lefty gasbags dancing in a line on a gibbet.

[Whatever Works]

I live in Hawaii. No choice. I hate the attitudes here. Aloha only works with natives and some locals, but they still claim it. It’s been gone a long time now.

I wish the feds would shut off the money supply and shut this place down. They hate businesses, working, and have turned paradise into a homeless, lawless cesspool.

I’d leave if I could.

[from occupied ga]

Sorry to hear that you’re stuck there. I visited twice and came to the conclusion that HI is in my list of places I never want to live along with CA, NY, MA, NJ, CT, IL, DE and RI.

[rellic]

The state of Hawaii is a misnomer.
It should be the state of Oahu Democrats.
There is no Aloha here,
just Democrats hate of freedom.
My wife lives and has a home in Hawaii
and I very frequently visit.
For tax reasons I’m a resident of WA state.
Hawaii taxes you to DEATH!
Retirees like me can’t afford the loss of
personal freedoms and money the government
of Oahu takes from us.
How do you think a retiree can have two
homes? That is due to me taking care of me
and not giving all my money to Oahu Democrats!

[Racketeer]

If a person is denied their legal or natural right, should that be justification for one to respond with serious physical conflict, even death, when such denial can cause you extreme harm or death?

[Adder]

Hawaii regulated deadly weapons.

So you what? Collected spears and war clubs after every battle? Me no tinka so...

[Frank Drebin]

It is only those things because of the poison and cancer of leftist ideaology. It won't last forever, keep fighting the good fight there, you're on the actual front line.

Regarding the constitutional matter...Didn't we settle this in 1865? Their state constitution does not override the Federal regarding the bill of rights. The US Constitution's Second Amendment is crystal clear. 'Shall not be infringed...'. There is no wiggle room. There is no alternate interpretation...and there is certainly no state that can choose which of the amendments they follow and which they do not. The SCOTUS will rip them a new hole in short order.

[No name given]

Agreed.

[Organic Panic]

I use to live on Oahu and then Kauai. Aloha is an invented fakery for tourism. It’s like any other place. Kauai wasn’t so bad but Oahu had the locals attitude of Hells Kitchen with a nicer view.

[from occupied ga]

It was my impression from a couple of visits and some reading that there is strong subculture of not working and getting by on welfare. That impression was reenforced when I read the story of the sugar business on the Big Island. Apparently the biggest, and for all I know the only sugar plantation/mill was losing money because foreign imports were undercutting wholesale prices in the US. They told the workers that they only way they could stay in business was cutting everyone's salary including management. They opened their books to all their employees and anyone else that wanted to see them to show they were not lying and put the pay cut proposition to a vote. The workers almost unanimously voted not to accept the pay cut. The mill shut down (sometime in the 90's I think) and as far as I know they former employees have been surfing and living on welfare purchased Spam ever since.

[from occupied ga]

If a person is denied their legal or natural right, should that be justification for one to respond with serious physical conflict, even death, when such denial can cause you extreme harm or death

I think the signers of the Declaration of Independence could and did answer that in 1776.

[jpp113]

This Judge is an idiot. The 2nd Amendment applies to ALL States through the 14th Amendment. Abrogation of the 2nd by Hawaiian state courts is a deprivation of civil rights under color of law and majorly compensable.

[from occupied ga]

I keep waiting for the supremes to squash the state court, but it hasn’t happened yet.

[from occupied ga]

Good for you keeping as much of the fruits of your labor as you can. I wondered if Hawaii doesn’t want to follow the US constitution, then they should go independent - get rid of federal representation and forgo all the welfare money and other sums that the mainland taxpayers pour into their islands. Or maybe become part of Japan. The Japanese wanted them 85 years ago I wonder if the could be tricked into taking them now (except for the military bases).

[from occupied ga]

I looked up the federal money spent in Hawaii ($18,281,000,000 in 2024) and the federal income tax collected from Hawaii in 2024 ($11,402,000,000) and noticed that Hawaii got a little less than $7 billion for being a state, but they don’t want to fulfill their obligations to uphold the US constitution. I suggest that federal funds be withheld utile that recognize that they are either part of the USA and follow US constitution or are not, in which case they don’t have to follow the constitution, but don’t get any money from the rest of us either.

[Rowdyone]

You are entirely correct. I’ve argued to friend and foe alike for decades that the states play no role in a Federally guaranteed right because of Federal supremacy. The social contract that is struck between free people with god given rights like self defense and any government that promises to protect them in exchange for loyalty and the common good cannot be intervened with by inferior governments. These inferior governments recognized this relationship when they joined the Union.

[rellic]

I’m a Conservative white man and a minority in Hawaii.
A state ruled by Democrats much as the Germans ruled Europe.
Few freedoms and an overpowering Government run by the racially “Pure”.
I don’t think Japan wants anything to do with Hawaii, other than to vacation here.
Asian vacationers here are a real Hoot!
Our Locals aren’t to smart and they are definitely dangerous.
Hopefully us Ha-oles can keep them in check.

[PROCON]

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[FreedomPoster]

A high school friend of mine (this was a long time ago) was a military brat in Hawaii before I knew him. He had stories of running from, sometimes getting beaten up by, the locals. And he was a pretty tough dude himself.

The Hawaiians being down on haoles is *not* a new thing, I knew the word from him from back then.