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1 posted on 09/17/2025 9:01:29 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: SunkenCiv

PinGGG!...............


2 posted on 09/17/2025 9:01:48 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger
The First Humans Were Hunted By Leopards And Weren’t The Apex Predators We Thought They Were...Homo habilis has been "dethroned".

What do you mean "we" ?

3 posted on 09/17/2025 9:03:01 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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4 posted on 09/17/2025 9:03:04 AM PDT by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: Red Badger

Well, duh. God didn’t create Adam and say, “And, oh yeah, here’s a spear.”


5 posted on 09/17/2025 9:04:58 AM PDT by Texas Eagle ("Throw me to the wolves and I'll return leading the pack"- Donald J. Trump)
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To: Red Badger

Who thought humans were apex predators? We didn’t come near that status until the bronze age. And without tools we still aren’t. We’ve got no natural weaponry, our senses are for crap so don’t know what’s going on around us, we’re slow, we’re weak. Until we get a 30-30 in our hand we’re hunted.


7 posted on 09/17/2025 9:10:18 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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I’m sure quite a few homo sapiens have been eaten by leopards in our time.


10 posted on 09/17/2025 9:13:27 AM PDT by mmichaels1970 ( )
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To: Red Badger

Yes, leopards built the pyramids with their human slaves.


12 posted on 09/17/2025 9:13:52 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: Red Badger

I have read that we have two sides to the brain where one side focuses predation and the other side focuses on avoiding on being preyed upon.


13 posted on 09/17/2025 9:15:51 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: Red Badger

Nobody, anywhere, has ever advanced the theory that humans were ‘apex predators” in the sense that nothing would dare attack a lion.

They find one chimp skull with a few leopard toothmarks and conclude that humans were not invulnerable to predators. Wonder how much this cutting edge analysis cost us?


14 posted on 09/17/2025 9:18:24 AM PDT by DesertRhino (When men on the chessboard, get up and tell you where to go…)
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To: Red Badger

[[Leopard tooth marks were found on this Homo habilis jawbone.]]

And it was probably a few blind deaf old individuals who couldn’t defend themselves or who got seperated from the tribe- They find one toothmark and declare the leopard the dominate creature? Healthy individuals likely dominated the big cats en mass- but just like today, things can go wrong and a cat can kill a human-


15 posted on 09/17/2025 9:34:10 AM PDT by Bob434 (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana)
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.......it shows that H. habilis was still more of a prey than a predator.....

No, it does not. They still only have two individuals. The sample size is far too small to draw any conclusions.

16 posted on 09/17/2025 9:34:54 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: Red Badger

And this is why some of us still don’t trust cats.


19 posted on 09/17/2025 9:49:43 AM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (Je suis Charlie Kirk!)
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To: Red Badger

The difference was the greater combat ability of homo manilla when acting in groups. One on one, leopards and other big cats were superior predators. Groups of homo manilla could drive groups of big cats from their kills.


20 posted on 09/17/2025 9:55:07 AM PDT by Thud
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To: Red Badger

Young men at work in offices and in clubs are still hunted by cougars.


26 posted on 09/17/2025 10:14:23 AM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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