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The First Humans Were Hunted By Leopards And Weren’t The Apex Predators We Thought They Were...Homo habilis has been "dethroned".
IFL Science ^ | September 17, 2025 | Benjamin Taub

Posted on 09/17/2025 9:01:29 AM PDT by Red Badger

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1 posted on 09/17/2025 9:01:29 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: SunkenCiv

PinGGG!...............


2 posted on 09/17/2025 9:01:48 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger
The First Humans Were Hunted By Leopards And Weren’t The Apex Predators We Thought They Were...Homo habilis has been "dethroned".

What do you mean "we" ?

3 posted on 09/17/2025 9:03:01 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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4 posted on 09/17/2025 9:03:04 AM PDT by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: Red Badger

Well, duh. God didn’t create Adam and say, “And, oh yeah, here’s a spear.”


5 posted on 09/17/2025 9:04:58 AM PDT by Texas Eagle ("Throw me to the wolves and I'll return leading the pack"- Donald J. Trump)
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To: Steely Tom
And Weren’t The Apex Predators We Thought They Were.


6 posted on 09/17/2025 9:05:19 AM PDT by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: Red Badger

Who thought humans were apex predators? We didn’t come near that status until the bronze age. And without tools we still aren’t. We’ve got no natural weaponry, our senses are for crap so don’t know what’s going on around us, we’re slow, we’re weak. Until we get a 30-30 in our hand we’re hunted.


7 posted on 09/17/2025 9:10:18 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: dfwgator

Heh, heh. Love the one where a cave man throws a spear at a wooly mammoth and misses by about ten feet and his buddies heckle him with taunts of, “Airrrrr spearrrr! Airrrrr spearrrr!”


8 posted on 09/17/2025 9:10:31 AM PDT by Texas Eagle ("Throw me to the wolves and I'll return leading the pack"- Donald J. Trump)
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To: Steely Tom

Leopards still attack humans and kill them.


9 posted on 09/17/2025 9:10:52 AM PDT by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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I’m sure quite a few homo sapiens have been eaten by leopards in our time.


10 posted on 09/17/2025 9:13:27 AM PDT by mmichaels1970 ( )
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On the morning of May 30, 2025, well-known German businessman and philanthropist Bernd Kebbel was mauled and killed by a lioness at the Hoanib Skeleton Coast Camp in Namibia while stepping out of his tent to use the toilet. Despite his friends’ efforts to drive the animal away, Kebbel died at the scene from his injuries.

https://www.google.com/search?q=lion+kills+person+in+namibia


11 posted on 09/17/2025 9:13:35 AM PDT by TexasGator (The 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: Red Badger

Yes, leopards built the pyramids with their human slaves.


12 posted on 09/17/2025 9:13:52 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: Red Badger

I have read that we have two sides to the brain where one side focuses predation and the other side focuses on avoiding on being preyed upon.


13 posted on 09/17/2025 9:15:51 AM PDT by ckilmer
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Nobody, anywhere, has ever advanced the theory that humans were ‘apex predators” in the sense that nothing would dare attack a lion.

They find one chimp skull with a few leopard toothmarks and conclude that humans were not invulnerable to predators. Wonder how much this cutting edge analysis cost us?


14 posted on 09/17/2025 9:18:24 AM PDT by DesertRhino (When men on the chessboard, get up and tell you where to go…)
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[[Leopard tooth marks were found on this Homo habilis jawbone.]]

And it was probably a few blind deaf old individuals who couldn’t defend themselves or who got seperated from the tribe- They find one toothmark and declare the leopard the dominate creature? Healthy individuals likely dominated the big cats en mass- but just like today, things can go wrong and a cat can kill a human-


15 posted on 09/17/2025 9:34:10 AM PDT by Bob434 (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana)
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.......it shows that H. habilis was still more of a prey than a predator.....

No, it does not. They still only have two individuals. The sample size is far too small to draw any conclusions.

16 posted on 09/17/2025 9:34:54 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: Red Badger; SunkenCiv

Funny thing, though.

We now have a boatload number more humans running around the world than leopards. More humans than lions, tigers, bears, and cheetahs, leopards, and pandas. More than cave bears, sabre-toothed tigers, short-nose bears, European lions, and other assorted toothed critters.

That one leopard ate one human ancestor several tens of thousands of years ago is not surprising at all.


17 posted on 09/17/2025 9:36:28 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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To: jimtorr

“The sample size is far too small to draw any conclusions.”

I was thinking the same thing. One needs larger sample sizes, perspective and context to get a bigger picture.

I realize they only have what they were able to find. But they have drawn grandiose conclusions from a small sample. A little more humility may be in order.

Humans still get attacked and eaten by wild animals in today’s world yet we sent men to the moon and destroyed two entire cities with two bombs.


18 posted on 09/17/2025 9:47:52 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Red Badger

And this is why some of us still don’t trust cats.


19 posted on 09/17/2025 9:49:43 AM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (Je suis Charlie Kirk!)
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To: Red Badger

The difference was the greater combat ability of homo manilla when acting in groups. One on one, leopards and other big cats were superior predators. Groups of homo manilla could drive groups of big cats from their kills.


20 posted on 09/17/2025 9:55:07 AM PDT by Thud
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