Posted on 09/13/2025 1:25:15 PM PDT by doug from upland
Fascism, as an ideology and system of governance, has no single universal definition. Scholars generally describe it authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.
Historical examples, primarily from Mussolini's Italy (1922–1945) and Nazi Germany (1933–1945), illustrate its core traits, though variations exist across regimes.
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Below, I address each question based on these examples and scholarly analyses.Does the leader take away guns? Fascist leaders typically implemented strict gun control to disarm potential opponents and consolidate power, though enforcement varied and often favored regime loyalists. In Mussolini's Italy, the 1931 Public Safety Act restricted civilian firearm ownership, though it was largely ineffective due to widespread non-compliance.
In Nazi Germany, the 1938 Weapons Act expanded on Weimar-era restrictions by banning Jews from owning firearms or ammunition, while easing some rules for "reliable" Germans (e.g., party members) to arm paramilitary groups like the SA.
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Overall, these measures targeted minorities, political enemies, and the general populace to prevent uprisings, rather than a total ban for all. Does he allow peaceful protests? Peaceful protests were generally not allowed, as fascist regimes viewed any dissent as a threat to national unity and the leader's authority. In Mussolini's Italy, opposition was suppressed through violence by Blackshirt militias, with strikes and protests broken up aggressively, leading to the establishment of a one-party state by 1925.
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In Nazi Germany, the regime outlawed labor unions and leftist groups, sending dissenters to concentration camps; the SA clashed with protesters before 1933, and post-power consolidation involved mass arrests.
Protests were only tolerated if state-orchestrated to demonstrate regime support. Is there freedom of speech? Freedom of speech was severely curtailed through censorship and propaganda to enforce ideological conformity. In Mussolini's Italy, media was state-controlled, with criticism of the regime outlawed after 1925, and the Luce Institute produced propaganda glorifying the Duce.
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In Nazi Germany, Joseph Goebbels' Ministry of Propaganda regulated all media, banning "degenerate" art and dissenting views, with education indoctrinating youth in Nazi ideology.
Dissent could lead to imprisonment or death, though speech aligning with the regime was encouraged. Is there freedom of religion? Freedom of religion was limited and subordinated to state interests; religions were tolerated or co-opted if they supported the regime but suppressed if they conflicted. In Mussolini's Italy, the 1929 Lateran Treaty allied with the Catholic Church for legitimacy, granting Vatican sovereignty, but tensions arose, leading to anti-clerical rhetoric and suppression of dissenting clergy—Mussolini called the papacy a "malignant tumor."
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In Nazi Germany, the regime promoted "Positive Christianity" while persecuting Jews (leading to the Holocaust), arresting over 2,700 Catholic clerics, and confiscating church property; some Protestant churches were Nazified.
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Fascism often functioned as a "political religion" itself, demanding absolute loyalty over spiritual beliefs.
Is there private enterprise or is the economy totally state-controlled? Fascist economies were neither fully capitalist nor socialist but corporatist, allowing private enterprise under heavy state direction to serve national goals like autarky (self-sufficiency). In Mussolini's Italy, the 1925 Palazzo Vidoni Pact and 1927 Charter of Labour created state-supervised corporations integrating business and labor, with the Institute for Industrial Reconstruction nationalizing failing firms; by 1935, three-quarters of the economy was state-influenced.
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In Nazi Germany, private firms like Krupp and IG Farben operated but were directed toward rearmament, with about 500 companies nationalized by the 1940s; Hitler supported "productive capitalism" tied to national interests.
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Private property existed but was subordinate to the state, rejecting both laissez-faire capitalism and Marxist collectivism.
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The "nationalism" of the left is a global super-state, with them as its brutal functionaries. That doesn't make them any less fascist because "the other" as objects of their murderous rages are anyone opposed to such. Hence, as international communists, "right wing" fascists are those who believe in a nation at all.
From Homage to Catalonia, by George Orwell:
In reality, it was the Communists above all others who prevented revolution in Spain. Later, when the Right Wing forces were in full control, the Communists showed themselves willing to go a great deal further than the Liberals in hunting down revolutionary leaders.[Snip]
Between the Communists and those who claim to stand to the Left of them there is a real difference. The Communists hold that Fascism can be beaten by alliance with sections of the capitalist class (the Popular Front); their opponents hold that this maneuver simply gives Fascism new breeding-grounds. The question has got to be settled; to make the wrong decision may be to land ourselves in for centuries of semi-slavery.
Like criminals in competing gangs, they might fight one another for territory, but in the end they all attack a populace.
Liberty for one and liberty for all means property rights and so much more.
Fascism is a form of Collectivism. They value the group, not the individual. ‘All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.’ — Mussolini. Individual rights, personal responsibility, freedom of conscience: these are the opposite of fascist values. The Democrats are really more fascist than they are communist.
I don’t see any difference between fascism and Communism. The many are slaves to the few under both.
We are at Big Government….
Yo grok ,,,
“In Nazi Germany, the regime outlawed labor unions and leftist groups,”
Nazis
were SOCIALISTS !,
and socialism is LEFT,
so Germany most certainly didn’t outlaw it self.
Grok thinks Nazis were right wing ?
WRONG !
Quit perpetuating that lie academia and grok
That’s how the left gets away with calling us Nazis, by this bait and switch.
Take the quotes below, and ask any Antifa member if they agree with them.
Science is now in the process of destroying religious dogma. The dogma of the divine creation is recognized as absurd. With each new discovery of chemistry, physics, biology, the anthropological sciences, of the practical application of sound principles, dogma collapses. It is a part of that old edifice of religion which crumbles and falls in ruins. The faculty by which man is differentiated from the lower animals is his reasoning power. But the devout believer renounces reason, refuses to explain the things which surround him, the innumerable natural phenomena, because his religious faith is enough for him. The brain loses the habit of thinking; and this religious sottishness hurls mankind back into animalism.
The rapacious property-owning American [...] admits no limits, possesses no scruples and does not share the fears and the cowardice of our bourgeoisie. [They are] violent, absolute criminal. When they feel the need, they simply stain their hands with proletarian blood. They lack any human sense. They are only interested in exploitation. We want an extraordinary heavy taxation, with a progressive character, on capital, that will represent an authentic partial expropriation of all wealth; seizures of all assets of religious congregations and suppression of all the ecclesiastic [...] revenues, in what constitutes an enormous deficit of the nation and a privilege for a minority; revisions of all contracts made by the war ministers and seizure of 85% of all war profits.
To-day we can affirm that the capitalistic method of production is out of date. So is the doctrine of laissez-faire, the theoretical basis of capitalism… To-day we are taking a new and decisive step in the path of revolution. A revolution, in order to be great, must be a social revolution. Silence is the only answer you should give to the fools. Where ignorance speaks, intelligence should not give [advice]. We do not argue with those who disagree with us, we destroy them.
Marx was the greatest of all theorists of socialism. [Marx] had a profound critical intelligence and was in some sense even a prophet.
These are all from Benito Mussolini. The head of the Fascist Party in Italy. You know, the guy who allied with Hitler in World War 2?
It grows in leaps and bounds for every Democrat politician that gets elected to office.
Zelensky is a fine example of fascism...banning elections, taking national control of all news outlets, banning opposition political parties, banning Russian Orthodox Churches by closing them, banning travel outside the country of 18-60 year old men since the war began, only relaxing it in August 2025. He’s as Naziesque as they get despite claiming to be Jewish. Plenty of idiots in the world who hate their Jewishness, and do everything to step away from it. Jews even served in Hitler’s Wehrmacht in WWII.
Extreme nationalism, limited individual freedom, maximum control of economic activity.... I think this pretty much describes China...
John T. Flynn’s 1944 classic As We Go Marching.
Fascism, Flynn writes, is a form of social organization:
1. In which the government acknowledges no restraint upon its powers—totalitarianism.
2. In which this unrestrained government is managed by a dictator—the leadership principle.
3. In which the government is organized to operate the capitalist system and enable it to function under an immense bureaucracy.
4. In which the economic society is organized on the syndicalist model; that is, by producing groups formed into craft and professional categories under supervision of the state.
5. In which the government and the syndicalist organizations operate the capitalist society on the planned, autarchical principle.
6. In which the government holds itself responsible for providing the nation with adequate purchasing power by public spending and borrowing.
7. In which militarism is used as a conscious mechanism of government spending.
8. In which imperialism is included as a policy inevitably flowing from militarism as well as other elements of fascism.
A good 30 years ago, before the Wall St Journal went totally wobbly, they published an editorial that examined what the Third Reich would look like if Hitler had achieved a negotiated peace and if Nazi Germany had survived WWII and stayed in place for 50 years. What would the Third Reich look like in 1995? The Wall St Journal said it would look like China. Which, of course, was a slightly polite way of telling people that China in 1995 looked like Nazi Germany.
Fascism always includes elements of corporatism, meaning the organization of society into legally defined blocks such as labor, business, trade unions, farmers, etc. It's not just that someone happens to be a farmer, but a farmer has legally distinct rights and obligations such as the right to a subsidized minimum price and the obligation to produce.
Existing social groups are in effect frozen in place with benefits or costs re-balanced by the state. Working conditions and trade union memberships along with pensions, vacation and other benefits dramatically increased under Fascist governments in Italy, Germany, Portugal and Spain. At the same time, capital was guaranteed a market, protection from competition and continued social status.
Because it uses and transforms an existing social structure, fascism is easier to emplace than Communism. Changes are gradually introduced as "reforms" and "regulation." However, all such reform is also bent towards the maintenance of power by the single party managing the state.
This why the New Left in the US actually resembles a fascist movement more than Bolshevism: it has realized that gradual regulatory and tax changes can over time give it totalitarian control over the means of production, and it is free to replace nationalism with anti-nationalism (the Bolshevik goal) by describing it as anti-racism, anti-sexism, etc.
The end result is what we almost got under Obama and Biden: a one-party corporate fascist state where big businesses are bought-off but highly regulated and subsidized as long as they toe the party line and support the Democratic Party. Genuine elections are replaced by massive media propaganda influence and outright ballot fraud, guaranteeing perpetual control by Democrats.
Mussolini was the editor of the Italian Socialist Party’s newspaper until he disagreed with the party on Italian participation in WW I. The Socialist Party wanted neutrality in the capitalist’s war, while Mussolini saw war as a chance to take culturally Italian regions of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Fascism is socialism plus militarism.
Fascist Threat--Janet Greene (1966)
Communist governments never came to power without considerable arms and financial assistance from an already Communist power. The exceptions are Russia
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both the Russian and Chinese Communist parties
never would have come to power in those 2 countries
with out
the Marxists in the United States help.
They were here then
and their commie spawn are still in our government.
EPISODE 351: THE CHINA FILES - PT 1 WARLORDS OF THE REVOLUTION
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n7YMzuKdDTs
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EPISODE 352: THE CHINA FILES P2
CHAOS UNDER HEAVEN
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3zNdoVhpUwk
Runtime 24m 44s
EPISODE 353: THE CHINA FILES PT. 3
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4BL7mUv52mc
Runtime 24m 18s
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EPISODE 354: THE CHINA FILES PT. 4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uCrICuLPY3g
Runtime 24m 33s
THE CHINA FILES PT. 5
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VPcN4fIvwUE
Runtime 48m 6 s
EPISODE 444: THE CHINA FILES PT. 6
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sN2eFPdTxKw
Runtime 23m 5 s
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EPISODE 468: CHINA FILES
- CCP POLICE ON US SOIL
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WzmRA9VM0K4
Runtime 22m 58s
further data of infiltration https://archive.org/details/americasretreatfromvictory_2402_librivox \/ Americas Retreat from Victory by Joseph McCarthy https://archive.org/details/americasretreatfromvictory_2402_librivox
the above justifies relabeling ‘anti-’ fa, as the more correct ‘ante-’ fa
an upped/increased/more extreme version of facism, NOT the gaslight meaning being fed to the mainstream of, against facism
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