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1 posted on 09/06/2025 6:31:32 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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2 posted on 09/06/2025 6:32:05 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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“”” why should parents, physicians or the public trust the CDC’s guidance?. . .””””

News flash..., I never did trust them.


3 posted on 09/06/2025 6:35:15 AM PDT by shelterguy
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Ping


4 posted on 09/06/2025 6:40:17 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim
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Always a worthwhile read


5 posted on 09/06/2025 6:43:17 AM PDT by Fai Mao (I used to care, but things have changed ~ Bob Dylan)
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How is trying to make gun control a “public health” issue so that CDC can meddle in it not partisan?


Exactly. Reading the CDC sponsored “research” about firearms is what convinced me of how partisan government funded “research” had become.

If they were doing biased studies to promote “gun control” why should I trust them about anything?


6 posted on 09/06/2025 6:44:46 AM PDT by marktwain
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Peter McCullough ( who BTW “never voted for Trump” ( ‘24-IDK) and seemingly was signed on fully to woke agenda until mugged by the medical establishment after his March’21 Covid treatment protocol in peer-reviewed Am. J. of Med. utilizing hydroxychloroquine) and Paul Myrick,( sterling reputation for ICU treatment achievements including high dose IV vitamin C for septic shock, pilloried and fired by his institution for questioning no treatment, vaccine only strategy employed the Fouch ) are about the only 2 people who could direct a high profile, unassailable inquiry IMHO.


7 posted on 09/06/2025 6:48:10 AM PDT by sopo
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“”climate change and gun control and land acknowledgements””

First two are known but what on earth are “land acknowledgements?”


8 posted on 09/06/2025 6:49:03 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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Measles is an extremely contagious viral illness that spreads through the air when an infected person breathes, coughs, or sneezes. The best way to protect yourself and your family against measles is the safe and effective MMR vaccine.

Measles can cause serious health problems:

1 in 5
unvaccinated individuals who get measles in the U.S. require hospitalization.

1 in 20
children may develop pneumonia, the top cause of measles-related deaths in kids.

1 in 1,000
can experience brain inflammation (encephalitis), leading to seizures, hearing loss, or long-term disability.

1-3 in 1,000
measles cases in the U.S. are fatal.

https://ysph.yale.edu/research/information-sheets/measles/


9 posted on 09/06/2025 6:57:32 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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I was an engineer for 35 years. Over that time I was tasked with a variety of statistical analysis projects.

YES I was a smart ass and would always ask, “what do you want the answer to be?” It was ALWAYS a joke.

The last 10 years of my career, that was no longer a joke. It had become the norm. Fudge the numbers to get the answer you want.

As for the CDC reputation, They can all GO TO HELL!!


11 posted on 09/06/2025 7:00:56 AM PDT by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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There is no constitutional justification for the CDC or federal involvement in regulating and commandeering healthcare.

NUKE THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL $1 TRILLION HHS, CDC, AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL FEDERAL HEALTHCARE!!!!

12 posted on 09/06/2025 7:03:06 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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The CDC from COVID?? Bahahahaha


14 posted on 09/06/2025 7:04:33 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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Bkmk


16 posted on 09/06/2025 7:06:26 AM PDT by sauropod
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“A small sampling of our death records illustrate the common causes of death among children - consumption (tuberculosis), croup, whooping cough, smallpox, measles, cholera, typhus, typhoid fever, diphtheria, influenza, and scarlet fever.”

“Cholera, typhoid fever, diphtheria, and scarlet fever outbreaks were high, killing many children. In the 20th century, scarlet fever was the leading cause of death in children, with a mortality rate of 20%.”

“Reasons for the high mortality rate can be traced to several factors. First, nutrition was a problem. Many had access to a limit amount of food, and nutritional value was low in many cases. Second, the idea of cleanliness and hygiene practices weren’t introduced until the late 1800s. People didn’t wash their hands or bathe regularly. Waste was thrown into streets and rivers. Housing in urban areas was crowded and dirty. Third, people were unaware how certain diseases were spread.”

https://www.greenecountyohio.gov/Blog.aspx?IID=180


19 posted on 09/06/2025 7:11:32 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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She was a political commissar and forced the CDC to follow the Democrat’s political narrative. Cheap imitation of Lysenko.


20 posted on 09/06/2025 7:11:33 AM PDT by allendale
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Diphtheria is a serious disease caused by a bacterium. This germ produces a poisonous substance or toxin which frequently causes heart and nerve problems. The case fatality rate is 5 percent to 10 percent, with higher case-fatality rates (up to 20 percent) in the very young and the elderly.

In the 1920’s, diphtheria was a major cause of illness and death for children in the U.S. In 1921, a total of 206,000 cases and 15,520 deaths were reported. With vaccine development in 1923, new cases of diphtheria began to fall in the U.S., until in 2001 only two cases were reported.

Although diphtheria is rare in the U.S., it appears that the bacteria continue to get passed among people. In 1996, 10 isolates of the bacteria were obtained from persons in an American Indian community in South Dakota, none of whom had classic diphtheria disease. There was one death reported in 2003 from clinical diphtheria in a 63 year old male who had never been vaccinated.

There are high rates of susceptibility among adults. Screening tests conducted since 1977 have shown that 41 percent to 84 percent of adults 60 and over lack protective levels of circulating antitoxin against diphtheria.

Although diphtheria is rare in the U.S., it is still a threat. Diphtheria is common in other parts of the world and with the increase in international travel, diphtheria and other infectious diseases are only a plane ride away. If we stopped immunization, the U.S. might experience a situation similar to the Newly Independent States of the former Soviet Union. With the breakdown of the public health services in this area, diphtheria epidemics began in 1990, fueled primarily by persons who were not properly vaccinated. From 1990-1999, more than 150,000 cases and 5,000 deaths were reported.

https://web.archive.org/web/20111029203131/http://www.cdc.gov//vaccines/vac-gen/whatifstop.htm#diphtheria


23 posted on 09/06/2025 7:18:10 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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RFK flat out called her a liar


24 posted on 09/06/2025 7:21:04 AM PDT by silverleaf (M:“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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Before pertussis immunizations were available, nearly all children developed whooping cough. In the U.S., prior to pertussis immunization, between 150,000 and 260,000 cases of pertussis were reported each year, with up to 9,000 pertussis-related deaths.

Pertussis can be a severe illness, resulting in prolonged coughing spells that can last for many weeks. These spells can make it difficult for a person to eat, drink, and breathe. Because vomiting often occurs after a coughing spell, persons may lose weight and become dehydrated. In infants, it can also cause pneumonia and lead to brain damage, seizures, and mental retardation.

The newer pertussis vaccine (acellular or DTaP) has been available for use in the United States since 1991 and has been recommended for exclusive use since 1998. These vaccines are effective and associated with fewer mild and moderate adverse reactions when compared with the older (whole-cell DTP) vaccines.

https://web.archive.org/web/20111029203131/http://www.cdc.gov//vaccines/vac-gen/whatifstop.htm#diphtheria


25 posted on 09/06/2025 7:23:51 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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“January 19,2021”

“Children make up 12.6% of all cases in the U.S. At least 10,182 children have been hospitalized since the start of the pandemic and 191 have died, according to the AAP/CHA report. Data were not available from all states.”

“About 1.8% of all COVID-19 hospitalizations and 0.06% of the deaths have been among children. About 0.8% of children with a known case of COVID-19 have been hospitalized and 0.01% have died.”

https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/12610/Pediatric-COVID-19-cases-surpass-record-for-a?searchresult=1

The risk of a child not getting vaccinated against Covid is likely going to be quite similar to the risk in pre-Covid vaccination days - about 1 in 10,000 might need hospitalization and about 1 in 500,000 might die from Covid.

At $100/vaccination, it is likely to cost ~$1 million to prevent a childhood Covid hospitalization and ~$50 million to prevent a childhood Covid death.


26 posted on 09/06/2025 7:26:19 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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The CDC — sorry — the CDC political bureaucracy and their “medical experts” lost all credibility during the Fauci Flu debacle ... as they should have. Those “experts” and “doctors” who advised people with compromised immune systems that as long as they wore a mask and associated only with others wearing a mask they would be “protected” and “safe” from contracting, spreading or getting sick from the airborne virus are truly guilty of criminal malpractice and should be held to account.


29 posted on 09/06/2025 7:34:17 AM PDT by glennaro (2025: The year of America's rebirth as a Great (and Free) Republic)
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Be aware that even if a child doesn’t die from a disease, a sick child may miss school for a few days or even more than a week. The child’s parent(s) will likely also miss work and lose income.


30 posted on 09/06/2025 7:37:28 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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