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1 posted on 09/02/2025 5:18:54 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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If congress were capable of doing their job they would have done this by now.


2 posted on 09/02/2025 5:19:05 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Didn’t Trump already win this long ago ?


4 posted on 09/02/2025 5:24:34 AM PDT by butlerweave (Fateh)
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We shouldn’t be trading with China at all. Not one dollar


5 posted on 09/02/2025 5:28:39 AM PDT by MarlonRando
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[[The U.S. Constitution grants the tariff power to Congress. Although the Supreme Court has held that Congress has wide latitude to delegate tariff authority to the President, Congress is ultimately responsible for determining what tariff authorities the President should have and what limitations those authorities place on presidential discretion.

Congress may consider whether the President’s existing tariff authorities are adequate, inadequate, or overly broad. If Congress believes existing authorities are inadequate or insufficiently specific, it may consider legislation delegating additional authorities to the President. For example, one bill introduced in the 119th Congress would authorize the President to determine whether a foreign country imposes tariff rates or nontariff barriers that are significantly higher than those of the United States as to particular goods and, if so, to impose U.S. tariffs on those goods up to the rate applied by the foreign country.241 Congress could potentially also expand the President’s authority under existing authorities, such as by removing some of the above-described procedural requirements in various tariff statutes.]]

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R48435

Fr9m what a lawyer on a news station was saying, basically, If congress doesn’t object, the president is free to impose tariffs, beczuse presidential powers are extraordinary basically, (the word wasnt extraordinary, but something along those lines), but even if congress objects, the president doesn’t have to abide, but doing g so might set up impeachment threat.


6 posted on 09/02/2025 5:28:58 AM PDT by Bob434 (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana)
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To: MtnClimber; AFB-XYZ; RitaOK; bitt

The final question here is whether the POTUS has the authority to declare a National Emergency or...

Whether such a declaration must be reviewed and approved by either Congress or the Courts.

We the People have vested such declarations in POTUS until such time the emergency is past.
Suck it!


8 posted on 09/02/2025 5:31:21 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (There are no more conspiracy theories, only questions that further the truth.)
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To: StAntKnee; texas booster

Manhattan Contrarian ping


13 posted on 09/02/2025 5:39:15 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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If Roberts can play semantics with the Obamacare “tax”, he can do the same with tariffs.


19 posted on 09/02/2025 5:50:49 AM PDT by Wuli (uire)
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I think the tariffs have generally been negotiated by presidents in “trade deals” that were then submitted and approved by Congress.

I this case Trump is calling the trade situation a national emergency and using a national emergency powers act to set tariffs directly, without Congress.

It will be interesting to see the Trump’s lawyers arguments at SCOTUS.

I think the difficulty will be that while the trade deficit may be a “national security” issue, it has been at a deficit state for decades, and so what will the argument be for how it is now an emergency.


24 posted on 09/02/2025 5:57:56 AM PDT by Wuli (uire)
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To: MtnClimber

What else would you expect from a bunch of America haters trying to keep American bucks rolling into foreign treasuries?


27 posted on 09/02/2025 6:09:28 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Is this damn country so hard up for Judges that we have to hire Sparkle Sookananan from Trinidad?)
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To remove and balance precocious trade barriers is a great objective. Canada and their barriers to dairy products is one example. To expect to balance trade with a laundry list of countries that don’t need quantities of stuff we make while we want quantities of stuff they do make is unrealistic. Trump has turned trade upside down unnecessarily and unrealistically in many but not all cases.

We have yet to see the negative impact of his actions but they are showing up and will grow. The cost of goods from protected industries can only go up. Fresh vegetables are an example of how costs to us are raised capriciously and suddenly. US producers can’t compete with Mexican costs or they would have already. Tariffs are noting but a tax on someone and that someone is almost always the consumer. Worse than that though, tariffs encourage non-competitive suppliers to raise prices and become even less efficient and enforcing the consumer to pay the price for that.

I hope this across the board, wild and woolly adventure on tariffs is an argument Trump loses in whole but not in part. We do need protection and counter protection but not on a world trade war scale.


37 posted on 09/02/2025 6:49:51 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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It’s looking more like the appeals court gets off on being shot doun by supreme court they keep doing it.


42 posted on 09/02/2025 7:06:31 AM PDT by Vaduz
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