Posted on 08/30/2025 5:48:19 AM PDT by DallasBiff
The debate is not just about the power of prayer. In the United States — with both a large religious population and the most mass shootings in the world — it’s also a polarized debate about gun control.
In other words, the episode set off rhetorical skirmishes along two of the biggest dividing lines in America’s cultural and political wars: God and guns. (That doesn’t even count the scrutiny over the motives and gender identity of the shooter, who died by suicide after the attack.)
Frey tapped into the principle of “Tikkun Olam,” in his Jewish faith, which speaks about repairing the world.
“The meaning there is, prayers are good, but they are not enough,” Frey said on CNN. “It’s only adequate if you can attach an action to the work. And in this case, we know what the solutions are. They’ve been the same solutions three years ago, five years ago, 15 years ago.”
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No one is debating anything of the sort
This case is closed. The cop moved right in fearlessly and the guy stopped shooting
The only debate going on is how to start fixing the prescription drug problem causing these mass murders
AP - humph.
The DISTRACTION of ‘guns’ and ‘prayer’ are being deployed to avoid reporting the obvious facts.
But not Wacko Trannies.
Oh no!!!
There is no “reignited debate about prayer” all there is is a demonic opposition to prayer which the left have always expressed!
And no, no debate about gun laws! Democrats simp,y want to confiscate guns from law abiding citizens so that cri I also have a real easy time lording it over defenseless victims!
One of the most important naval battles in history was won by faith and prayer.
The naval Battle of Lepanto, fought on October 7, 1571, was a decisive victory of the Christian fleet over the Ottoman Turks, saving the Christian West from Islamic conquest.
Pope Pius V had called for all Christians (and sailors) to pray the Rosary for victory, trusting in Mary’s protection.
The Catechism teaches that the Rosary is a prayer of great power and devotion, meditating on the mysteries of Christ’s life through Mary’s eyes (CCC 971).
The battle’s triumph is a testament to the efficacy of Marian prayer and the Church’s reliance on her maternal intercession. Biblical support includes Revelation 12:1, describing a woman “clothed with the sun,” symbolizing Mary’s role in spiritual battles. The victory at Lepanto is a historic example of faith and prayer triumphing over evil.
As a result, 1571, the year of the battle of Lepanto, the most important naval contest in human history, is not well known to Americans. October 7, the Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary, celebrates the victory at Lepanto, the battle that saved the Christian West from defeat at the hands of the Ottoman Turks.
A young contemporary of Don John’s, Miguel Cervantes, fought with abandon and lost his left hand to a Turkish blade. With his remaining hand, he later penned Spain’s greatest novel, Don Quixote.
For further information:
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/the-battle-that-saved-the-christian-west
Guns don’t pull their own triggers. In this case, a crazy, indoctrinated young person did. Want to solve this problem? Have armed teachers at every school and treat transgenderism as the mental illness that it is.
With one pull of a trigger a tranny can put out 150 bullets in a few seconds.
The shooter clearly had mental defects for which the shooter was not properly treated for.
One poster on The Conservative Treehouse said Minnesota law barred proper treatment.
When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns
“Have armed teachers at every school”
Police stations can be built in or by schools.
Students would also see the police haul in criminals.
I would also bury former students who died from drug overdoses on school grounds.
JAMES STUPID
1999-2025
Fentanyl
LINDA LOOPY
1987-2025
Fentanyl++
1968.
“Today we begin to disarm the criminal and the careless and the insane. All of our people who are deeply concerned in this country about law and order should hail this day.”-— Lyndon Johnson signing the 1968 gun control act into law.
And Thomas J. Dodd, who wrote the 1968 gun control act using the 1938 Nazi Weapons Law as a pattern...
“No one can predict how many lives will be spared because of this bill, but, if the bloody record of our yesterdays is any measure, millions of future Americans will live to enjoy the promise of many peaceful tomorrows.
I am grateful to have had the opportunity to play a part in this great moment in our time.”— Thomas J. Dodd on passage of the 1968 Gun control act.
HOW DID THAT DEMOCRAT PROMISE WORK OUT FOR YOU AMERICA!
There were very few mass killings before the 1970s. I can recall three since 1949. Most mental hospitals were closed in the 1970s. When that happened mass murders took off like a rocket.
The “thoughts and prayers” deniers should just come right out and say there is no God and religion is superstition. Someone should poll Democrats on their religious beliefs. I bet 99% consider themselves pagans or worse.
No it doesn't. There is no debate over gun control. There are only two sides. The side that knows we have a constitutionally confirmed God given right to self defense and the other side that believes that government not God is the ultimate authority and is constantly looking for ways to strip us of our right to self defense so that government can do what unfettered governments always do - turn into absolute tyrannies. This latter group is called Democrats and the are relentless in their attempts to enslave us and strip us of every freedom we have. There is NO common ground for debate. Democrats can all go to hell.
Democrats have never been interested in controlling crime or mass murders. When the 1968 Gun control law was passed it did nothing to stop crime as they were actually after the guns, as they have been since 1934.
Once they get a gun law passed they immediately start demonizing trying to ban more, and more and more.
The Democrats have been screaming for gun registration and bans since 1962.
1962-Call for Handgun registration ONLY! Rifles will not be affected.
1963-Call for registration of All guns and a ban on 5 shot army surplus rifles!
1968-Got a ban on small foreign handguns and 5 shot bolt action army surplus rifles.
1971 Call for Ban on small American handguns. “Rifles will not be affected!”
1975 Call for Ban on all handguns. “Rifles will not be affected!”
1981 Actress Lee Grant on ABC’s GMA yells...
“THE NRA IS A RIFLE ORGANIZATION! THEY SHOULD GIVE UP THEIR HANDGUNS AND THEY CAN KEEP THEIR RIFLES!”
1984 Call for ban on semi-auto rifles.
1994 Ten year “ban” on “a-s-s-ault rifles”.
2000 Call to ban single shot .50 cal rifles.
Rest assured if they get a ban on semi-auto rifles, they will be back for more, and more and more.
“Assault weapons’ menacing looks, coupled with the public’s confusion over
fully-automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons
—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine
gun— can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on
these weapons.”
– Josh Sugarmann
“””One poster on The Conservative Treehouse said Minnesota law barred proper treatment.”””
They have Red Flag laws here. In order to buy a pistol or an AR with a pistol grip you need to get a Permit to Purchase from the Sheriff. It involves a more detailed background check and has to be renewed every year. You also still need to fill out the standard firearms form at the gun shop.
But there is no way they would flag a trannie as having any kind of mental problems.
So…no guns and no prayer I’ll assume. No need to read the article
Doesn't matter how may lives were saved, if any or how many lives were lost because of restrictions on the right to self defense. Democrat rhetoric is never about truth. It's about saying whatever they think the easily swayed masses will believe to further their agenda. And as we've seen with such things as the EV mandate they want to strip us of all and every freedom we have and rule with an iron fist. If the Democrats had their way we would be disarmed, stripped or our ability to travel where we want, buy what we want, say what we want (look at the UK jailing people for the imaginary crime of "misgendering" some on), etc.
Democrats/anti-gunners cannot be reasoned with because they don't believe in reason or logic only the attainment of absolute power. Nor can they be bargained with because every word they utter is a lie. If lies get them closer to their goal they will lie shamelessly. (Kind of like some other group we know about).
Anyone with half a functioning brain knows that gun control just makes it easier for criminals and crazies to prey on the rest of us. Democrats don't care about that as long as we're rendered helpless for the Democrats to prey on us
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