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1 posted on 08/23/2025 12:21:50 PM PDT by DFG
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Ed Vestras rule: “Going up is optional, coming down is mandatory”


2 posted on 08/23/2025 12:27:59 PM PDT by Zathras
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While I have ~ZERO~ desire to ever become a mountaineer, and for the vast majority of people who attempt these climbs are foolhardy at best, she knew going in what the dangers were, and all associated risks. We can pray for her, but to send anyone else without a good degree of certainty of rescue is also foolhardy.


3 posted on 08/23/2025 12:28:21 PM PDT by Spacetrucker
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Think, before you roam to an inaccessible point on the map, placing the lives of others at high risk.
Why? To break some kind of world record?
Even a motivated Rescue Crew does not owe you their lives.
It’s wrong to assume that they do
A similar predicament happens to scientists who explore the Antarctic regions.


4 posted on 08/23/2025 12:31:42 PM PDT by lee martell
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I wonder if there are any drones that can operate at that altitude while lifting 160-ish pounds. Take her food, water, oxygen, until the weather breaks enough to hoist her out.


5 posted on 08/23/2025 12:35:37 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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She got herself up there now she can get herself down.


7 posted on 08/23/2025 12:37:27 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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Notes to self:
Don’t break a leg at 22,000 feet.
Stay home and watch a youtube video instead.


9 posted on 08/23/2025 12:39:07 PM PDT by DannyTN
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They don’t sign a release saying I’m climbing at my own risk- because coming down actually isn’t mandatory?


11 posted on 08/23/2025 12:42:30 PM PDT by stanne (Because they were mesmerized by Obama, the man for whom this was named, whose name they left out of )
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I'm surprised they even tried to reach her by helicopter. I recall reading a news item a few months ago about a new record in high altitude helicopter rescues in Colorado, where the peaks top out around 14500'. Thin air = less lift, making high altitude rescue ops difficult or impossible.

Then again, I recall ~20 years ago an article describing how the Pakistani military thwarted an attempt by an Indian squad to seize a peak along the disputed Kashmir border by strapping a pair of soldiers to the landing skids of a stripped-down helicopter and successfully getting them to the peak.

16 posted on 08/23/2025 12:50:34 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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She made her choice
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19 posted on 08/23/2025 12:56:39 PM PDT by The Louiswu (USA FIRST...USA FOREVER)
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Messing around with rocky mountain trails, too little oxygen, and freezing cold temperatures is pretty darn dangerous. And if you go up a mountain so high that you need sherpas and base camps, it’s expensive, too. But people seem to flock to these risky adventures.


20 posted on 08/23/2025 12:59:10 PM PDT by KittyKares
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Looks like that’s one group that isn’t helped by the Climate Crisis hot temps. Mountain climbers.


24 posted on 08/23/2025 1:21:53 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (You can vote your way into socialist communism, but you will have to shoot your way out.)
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But since then temperatures have sunk to minus 23C and multiple rescue attempts have ended in tragedy.

That's -9.4F. I can see where that would be an issue for sure.

25 posted on 08/23/2025 1:22:30 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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Victory Peak in Kyrgyzstan,


26 posted on 08/23/2025 1:28:56 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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Russian mountaineer Natalia, also known as Natasha, Nagovitsina, 47,

Does, AI, write this, slop?

27 posted on 08/23/2025 1:34:04 PM PDT by HonkyTonkMan ( )
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Matters escalated after Sinigaglia himself then died on the mountain from prolonged exposure to low oxygen and hypothermia.

My daughter just hiked to 20,000 feet in the Andes after spending two weeks at 11,000 feet. She hiked, mind you, not climbed, and rode a horse back down the trail.

28 posted on 08/23/2025 1:36:44 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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I flew in to Colorado to see a friend living near Denver from back home in the midwest. The next day, we were at a mountain park hiking up two peaks that were over 12,000 feet at the top. I got to one with a lot of panting and nearly the top of the other, but I was panting like crazy and just not getting oxygen fast. I felt great, otherwise.

There was a last stretch that was maybe 100 feet of steep walking. I just could not make it. I was breathing and could get okay again, but moving up with effort was just not working for me. I could only stay or go down during those minutes. I told him I didn’t know why it was so rough, but that I just could not finish it.

Well, later, I looked it up and I likely had a form of altitude sickness. I never felt bad or uncomfortable, but breathing was just not working. Going down with my backpack was fine, but going down is controlled falling, which requires little effort.

I can’t imagine what 22,000 foot is like, but you sure had better acclimate a lot more than 12 hours, like I did. It apparently takes two weeks for red blood cells to make 12,000 - 13,000 work well for us. I had come from 600 foot above sea level, but was quite fit.


29 posted on 08/23/2025 1:41:05 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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I believe there are still bodies on Mount Everest that are deemed unrecoverable.


32 posted on 08/23/2025 2:01:49 PM PDT by Nachoman (Proudly oppressing people of color since 1957.)
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High mountains and low brains don’t mix.


38 posted on 08/23/2025 2:26:56 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (Don't shoot until you see the whites of their lies)
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what’s an old woman doing climbing that to begin with!


40 posted on 08/23/2025 2:34:10 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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Kyrgyzstan is on China’s NW border.


41 posted on 08/23/2025 2:48:03 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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