Posted on 08/21/2025 7:19:38 AM PDT by delta7
Congressman Matt Gaetz proposed a radical peacetime solution – allow Russia to join NATO. “Before you suggest I’m crazy for thinking about NATO and Russia as partners, the idea has been floated by foreign policy thinkers on the right and left for some time,” Gaetz added.
“In 1997, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee held a hearing on NATO expansion. President Clinton’s secretary of state, Madeleine Albright, reflected on groundbreaking cooperation between NATO and Russia.” The concept never came to fruition as NATO decided that encircling Russia was of paramount concern, and partnering with its greatest enemy was of no interest to the neocons who WANT war. “Michael McFaul was President Obama’s ambassador to Russia. In 2006, he wrote an article entitled, ‘Why a Democratic Russia Should Join NATO,’” Gaetz went on. “Again, this reinforces that NATO membership is an earned reward, not an entitlement, but why not give Russia a chance to earn it?”
McFaul’s piece on Russian NATO membership was published in July 2006. But you must read between the lines, as the ambassador was suggesting more than mere integration. “In Russia, they are represented by the corrupt bureaucracy and advocates of authoritarianism who believe that greater contact with the West restricts their power and diminishes their wealth. In the West, and especially in the United States, they are represented by policymakers and analysts who believe that Russians do not value democracy, Russian leaders are imperialists, and Russia therefore can never be considered part of the West,” McFaul wrote.
He continued to say that the West was not threatening to Russia, nor are “Russians genetically disposed towards autocracy nor historically destined to remain imperial.” Yet, under the leadership of Vladimir Putin, the West refuses to consider Russia a true democracy because it upholds nationalist views. Russia refuses to bend the knee to the globalist world order and, therefore, is considered an “unqualified member of the West.”
A regime change would alter the West’s perspective, as the West has long sought control over Russia. McFaul suggested that European leaders should outline a framework for Russia to join the European Union to become fully integrated into the West “even if it takes chunks of centuries.” Again, Russian NATO membership is contingent on Russia becoming a Western globalist world order member.
Obama’s Russian ambassador then went on to state that Russia must establish closer relations with other globalist organizations such as the United Nations, the OSCE, and the Council of Europe. Furthermore, Russia was to support the United States in its war in the Middle East and establish a “regional security organization, not unlike the CSCE that the United States and the Soviet Union anchored when first formed in 1974.”
Russia would never agree to join NATO. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) was founded in the aftermath of the last World War to counter Russian influence, despite Russia being an ally during wartime. NATO incorporated Eastern bloc countries of the former Soviet Union to weaken Russia’s global influence in a move that humiliated the Russian people. Even after the Cold War, NATO continued to encircle Russia and expand eastward to assert dominance.
Former Russian President Boris Yeltsin was cautious about NATO expansion but agreed to join the Partnership for Peace in 1994 to maintain diplomatic relations with the West. Yeltsin then signed on to the 1997 NATO-Russia Founding Act that stated Russia and NATO would not consider each other adversaries.
NATO promised not to place nuclear weapons in new member states. Both sides agreed to increased transparency and cooperation. Every promise imploded in 2014 after the annexation of Crimea, the installation of a faux Ukrainian government, and the lie that was the Minsk agreement.
“Take care of Russia,” were Yeltsin’s final words to Putin before relinquishing power. Not only is Putin protecting Russia against foreign influence, but he is keeping the true hardliner oligarchs who wish to recreate the glory days of the USSR at bay.
However, both the hardliners and NATO have been impatiently waiting for a misstep from Putin since he took office. Russia does not want to become a vassal state of the West. NATO was formed to combat Russia and now acts as a retirement home for neocons who want to see Russia destroyed before they take their final breaths.
I’m sure Russia would love to join NATO, because they could then attack any NATO country without invoking Article 5.
Mister Armstrong sometimes gets a crazy idea in his head.
You don’t want a big brown bear as a pet.
“ Martin Armstrong”
That can’t be his real name.
I’m sure Russia would love to join NATO, because they could then attack any NATO country without invoking Article 5.
Judging by the article, Martin may need a padded cell in a few years.
Change the name to "Democratic Nations Alliance' - DNA. Members will ally/defend against communist and autocratic nations. I believe Russia would qualify as a democratic nation despite its shortcomings.
“The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) was founded in the aftermath of the last World War to counter Russian influence, despite Russia being an ally during wartime. “
Reflects the Putin line entirely - That the Soviet Union was just a continuation and expansion of the Russian Empire, and it was all really about RUSSIA, not Communism or even the Societ version of Communism. And that the Western response to the westward expansion of the Soviet Union, post WWII, was NOT about the Soviet Union at all, it was about RUSSIA.
A total Putinista line or reasoning.
“That can’t be his real name.”
Martin Armstrong is the real name of the lying, scamming ex-con.
So say he posts here as delta7. Delta7 does not deny this.
“Judging by the article, Martin may need a padded cell in a few years.”
The feds gave him free room and board for eleven years but no padding in his cell.
Putin suggested that in 1990, not Matt.
Something that would be nice for all meme posters to do would be that once they think everyone has seen the same meme dozen of times, then the meme could be greatly reduced in size, for example by 80% or so, that way we still see the meme, yet it takes less scrolling to get to the next post.
Silver is going to the moon!!!
Some people are just born to lead interesting lives.
When President Trump leaves office our weapons will still be pointed at our enemy Russia, and at its ruler for life leader who will be approaching his 30th year of ruling.
Impossible. NATO needs them as a permanent enemy, that is why they cultivated them as one for a solid 15 years and slapped away every hand of friendship they offered.
If they were in some sort of alliance with us, it would ruin two things. One, people might ask who was NATO meant to defend them from. And two, NATO is defacto completely run by us, and the allies are nothing but followers. If Russia was there they might want it to be something besides utterly US dominated.
Anyway, we’d screw it up inside of 6 weeks. DC would insist on NATO bases in Russia along the Chinese border or something other nutty idea.
That Russia in NATO possibility ship sailed years ago. The DC/London axis has made them into an enemy now, and they will remain so for several decades again.
Buy Raytheon and Lockheed Martin stocks and forget the pipe dream.
Russia join NATO against who?
When you actually look historically at what’s occurred on the Chinese-Russian border over the last 75 years you will have an answer. Many conflicts, most downplayed, with China claiming swaths of land near Siberia as ‘culturally Chinese’. I suspect that much of that land has oil and minerals.
The Russians have managed to consume all of the old Soviet equipment in the Ukraine conflict. China (and it’s puppet N.K.), India, Iran do most of the supplying of equipment that the Russians say they are ‘producing’. The Russian air force probably can’t even protect it’s own borders anymore.
Russia has more in interest with China than with Europe today.
And North Korea has sent thousands of troops to fight and die for Russia in this war.
Russia is not going to join an alliance against them.
Yet, under the leadership of Vladimir Putin, the West refuses to consider Russia a true democracy because it upholds nationalist views. Russia refuses to bend the knee to the globalist world order and, therefore, is considered an “unqualified member of the West.”
This. Anti LGBT, and their worst sin of all is that they do not allow Rothschilds western bankers to loot them again as they did in the 90s. The banks and western oligarchs are furious that they cannot gain control of their resources and load Russia up with sovereign debt. Their income tax hovered around 12%, and their debt to GDP ratio was 19% before the war. The USA is around 123% and rising.
Why not?
NATO is a fig leaf over unpreparedness of euroweenies.
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