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My Current Thoughts on a Possible Peace Deal
Brian Griffin | 08/19/2025 | Brian Griffin

Posted on 08/19/2025 9:02:58 AM PDT by Brian Griffin

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1 posted on 08/19/2025 9:02:59 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

In all honesty, no one cares what you think. President Trump and Vlad ( not Zelensky nor the EU fools) is the core, the ones deciding.

Should Zelensky decide to NOT give up the ethnic Russian provinces for Peace, Vlad will let the Reality on the front decide. Either way, Vlad keeps his Russian Provinces, and there is little the West can do about it.

Checkmate.


2 posted on 08/19/2025 9:09:04 AM PDT by delta7
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To: Brian Griffin

I also suspect a peace deal is possible, but I am very skeptical that it would be lasting.

Almost everything Putin is asking for is a big billboard invitation to regroup and attack again. No military treaties or defense agreements, no defense memberships, etc. etc.

If Russia wants all these things, then there has to be some for of deterrence built into the agreement in some other way. It threatens WWiii, so most people don’t like it, but a failure by Russia to adhere to the agreement should have it explicitly written in that they will forfeit the pact in toto and be subject to any manner of punitive action.


3 posted on 08/19/2025 9:09:49 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: Brian Griffin
If Trump can't do it, NOBODY CAN. This exercise makes me incredibly proud of Trump and underscores the degree to which he is respected by world leaders, including Putin.

Unfortunately, I do NOT see Putin relinquishing ANY held territory and therefore Zelenskyy not agreeing to a deal.

4 posted on 08/19/2025 9:10:32 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: delta7

5 posted on 08/19/2025 9:14:39 AM PDT by gundog (The ends justify the mean tweets. )
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To: Brian Griffin

Putin is doing what Arafat did in the Clinton era. Make his demands such that peace does NOT happen. The current Russian economy and his personal survival now depend on the continuation of the war.


6 posted on 08/19/2025 9:17:55 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: Brian Griffin

Technocracy doesn’t matter.

This is about POWER.

Putin will “honor” the details of any agreement as long as he “respects” the POWER behind the agreement.

In that case, it would be Trump but Trump has a shelf life of less than four years.

The question currently on the table is how much do Zelensky and the Euroweenies respect Trump’s POWER.

There is a very short time window here.

Putin and Trump will DICTATE the terms and each will abide by those as long as they are both in power.

When one leaves the stage, it’s back to the conflict which goes back centuries.


7 posted on 08/19/2025 9:22:12 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: Brian Griffin

You should have listed your thread as VANITY.
Which is what it is.


8 posted on 08/19/2025 9:23:20 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRobr 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: libh8er

Zelensky can get off his azz, go on offense and retake his territory from
Ruzzia. That’s an option.
Of course he would have to increase his FORCED Conscription Squads to snatch
Military age men off the streets of Kiev to fill his warm body needs.


9 posted on 08/19/2025 9:29:48 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRobr 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: Brian Griffin

Who gets bragging rights?


10 posted on 08/19/2025 9:31:41 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Brian Griffin

I am reminded that Ukraine signed a deal to hand over their nukes in exchange for a guarantee from Russia that they would never invade.


11 posted on 08/19/2025 9:32:26 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If Hitler were alive today and criticized Trump, would he still be Hitler?)
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To: libh8er

That’s why he was noncommittal in his telephone talk with Trump yesterday.


12 posted on 08/19/2025 9:48:06 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: Brian Griffin

You’re pipe dreaming. Putin wants land and worth, and Zelenskyy is willing to send his people to hara-kiri to keep his face and his wealth. This is not a “deal” of ending a war. It’s just another step in its continuance and the displaying of two monsters.

It is an equal possibility either or both will break any agreement at any time. Putin is arrogant and dishonorable and Zelenskyy is crooked and self serving. Together they make a liberal.

wy69


13 posted on 08/19/2025 9:56:07 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: AppyPappy

“I am reminded that Ukraine signed a deal to hand over their nukes in exchange for a guarantee from Russia that they would never invade.”

The people paid from Moscow guarding them would have disabled the nukes so they would not explode without work before handing them over.

Pouring a can of soda into one would probably require remanufacture.

There are certain requirements that have to met to make a nuclear bomb explode well that cannot be mentioned in a public forum.


14 posted on 08/19/2025 10:40:24 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: gundog

lmao


15 posted on 08/19/2025 10:51:05 AM PDT by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: Brian Griffin

Too complicated


16 posted on 08/19/2025 10:54:32 AM PDT by Fledermaus ("It turns out all we really needed was a new President!")
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To: Brian Griffin

The front lines should those of any day after August 18th selected by Trump as justified by US intelligence evidence.

[That’s to end the incentive to fight, basically creating a ceasefire.]

sanctions on Russia to be removed only after a certain period of Russian good behavior.

[That’s to get the Russians in line]

the base schedule for the return of Russian assets,
and asset return rate changes to ensure the good behavior of Russians and Ukrainians,
including their paramilitaries and other irregulars,

[That’s to keep them both in line - the Russians want their assets back and Ukrainian misbehavior might unpleasantly result in faster asset return to the Russians.]

the Ukrainian right to buy listed weapons [Patriots, anti-aircraft weapons, artillery shells, missiles] from the US, EU and possibly the UK at prices in line with what the source entity government(s) would pay, if such would be in the interest of EU security,

[That’s to get the Ukrainians to sign on, and to be peaceful. A Ukraine that upsets Russia again might get invaded again, which would cause the EU’s security buffer of Ukraine to be put at risk again.]


17 posted on 08/19/2025 10:58:30 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin
The people paid from Moscow guarding them would have disabled the nukes so they would not explode without work before handing them over.

Thanks for sharing your fantasies and skills as an author of fiction. Have you ever tried writing a novel?

18 posted on 08/19/2025 11:08:48 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: libh8er

You have that backwards, it is Zelensky who needs the war to stay in power.


19 posted on 08/19/2025 11:22:30 AM PDT by packrat35 (Pureblood! No clot shot for me!)
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To: delta7

Suh and arrogant one you are.


20 posted on 08/19/2025 1:04:52 PM PDT by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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