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Venmo to Pay the National Debt?
Armstrong Economics ^ | 15 Aug 25 | Martin Armstrong

Posted on 08/15/2025 6:26:31 AM PDT by delta7

The US Treasury Department is extremely desperate for any morsel it can find to put toward the $36.7 trillion national debt. Is Donald Trump asking Americans to Venmo or PayPal the US government cash to pay down the national debt? Not quite, as the Treasury has a long-standing program called “Gifts to Reduce the Public Debt” that asks Americans to donate their personal funds toward government spending.

Trump introduced the option to pay through online platforms such as PayPal or Venmo; however, the program began decades ago in 1996. The Pay.gov website also accepts bank transfers, debit or credit cards. You could probably offer your first-born as payment as the Treasury is indeed that desperate.

Some Americans are indeed voluntarily giving the government money. In fact, the initiative has collected $67 million since it began in 1996 and the coffers are growing a mere $120,000 per month since 2020. The rest of us are involuntarily providing the government with money through taxation without representation.

Obviously, the charitable contributions are a complete joke and could not account for even a day of interest on the national debt. Still, the options exist and those who believe that taxes deserve to rise should willingly hand over their money to the government while the rest of us attempt to navigate our finances amid the volatile conditions the government has created. They will continue to collect more taxes rather than curtail spending involuntarily, yet they will never collect enough.

Some consider donating to the lost cause that is the US government as a tax deductible charitable contribution. The US government, the largest economy on the planet, does not need charity. The US government needs to curtail its reckless spending and hold politicians responsible for their endless waste.


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As the USD continues to fall ( down 11.7 percent since January) and nations continue selling US Debt Treasuries, “the end game” is becoming more apparent.

Fine and dandy Bessent and Trump offer up novel Stable coins ( they must hold US debt instruments) but they were devised and concocted to find buyers for our Debt….the scheme will fail.

1 posted on 08/15/2025 6:26:31 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7
You could probably offer your first-born as payment as the Treasury is indeed that desperate.

Unless I am mistaken, when said first born acquires a Social Security Number, that person becomes subject to said national debt.

2 posted on 08/15/2025 6:31:51 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: delta7
The simplest answer to the debt question stares us right in the face. Stop spending.

But addicts don't listen to reason.

3 posted on 08/15/2025 6:31:56 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: Carry_Okie
Social Security Number doesn't really matter. If you are a citizen that is all it takes to become part of the biggest losers club. Because even if you don't have a Social Security number/card when the whole pyramid scheme comes crashing down you will still be affected in a bad way.

You could still tout "I'm not part of the system" but the economy will be in tatters all around you anyway.

There is no escape.

Happy Friday!

4 posted on 08/15/2025 6:35:13 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: delta7

A main theory floating around is a gold revaluation from $42.22 (the current valuation) to $7000 per ounce would pay down the debt by about $2T, which is under the current system about all it could swallow in debt paydown for the next 2 years.

Two reasons the “debt” can not be paid down in one fell swoop: one, only the near-term notes due can be paid, not the long term, and even more to my point, two, there is no way to pay it off, it was designed to never be paid off, there is not enough “money” in the world to pay it off.

The $37T (plus much more debt not in the debt ledger) will be wiped out, the FED/IRS stiffed, the FED stockholders and bankster owners stiffed, with a new Dollar pm-backed.

The debt is largely a man-made creation of inflated credit and real-money derivatives made to enslave us.


5 posted on 08/15/2025 6:36:34 AM PDT by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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To: frogjerk

Pass a law that forces a continual reduction in deficit in real terms and then pass a law that forces a real paydown of the debt. No more relative to GDP crap.


6 posted on 08/15/2025 6:36:40 AM PDT by Jonty30 (If you put some water in your gas tank, with your gas, the gas will stay in the tank longer.)
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To: delta7

The real one big beautiful bill would (1) outright repeal all the the legislation authorizing the big spending programs of Biden and (2) for a start reset the budget to the 2017 budget (a $4 trillion reduction in spending vs 2025), and then (3) massive cuts out of that budget.


7 posted on 08/15/2025 6:41:36 AM PDT by Wuli (uire)
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“ The rest of us are involuntarily providing the government with money through taxation without representation.”
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Where does Martin live? I don’t like my tax payments, but it’s not like I don’t have ‘representation’ in Washington.

And if his superdupercomputer doesn’t know about the income tax amendment, I would question everything else it suggests.

Only kidding. I don’t believe any of what this guy says.


8 posted on 08/15/2025 6:42:15 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: frogjerk

First of all, they need to go after some rather high-living politicians, most of whom have more money than taxpayers or ex-taxpayers living on S.S. had or will ever have. These folks, coincidentally are the ones who also spend our nation’s monies in some of the most foolish ways. They are likely the ones who even HAVE the extra money to send in to reduce our national debt.


9 posted on 08/15/2025 6:43:52 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: frogjerk

Habit of spending other people’s money is more addictive than heroin.

Only way to stop the debt madness suicide is follow my tag line.


10 posted on 08/15/2025 6:45:32 AM PDT by Bobbyvotes (TERM LIMITS is the ONLY WAY to get rid of corrupt career politicians. )
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To: Jonty30

Not gonna happen ever unless
Follow my tag line.


11 posted on 08/15/2025 6:47:48 AM PDT by Bobbyvotes (TERM LIMITS is the ONLY WAY to get rid of corrupt career politicians. )
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To: delta7

Hard working and heavily taxed Americans, Pay down the debt so that liberals in government who r3dkl3ssly spent without a care in the world, can keep spending like drunken fools without any repercussions.


12 posted on 08/15/2025 6:53:03 AM PDT by Bob434 (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana)
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To: frogjerk

One program I would like to see is a way to buy oneself out of the system, effectively a program to purchase one’s own freedom from national debt obligations. It might raise some real money.


13 posted on 08/15/2025 6:53:34 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: oldtech
extra money to send in to reduce our national debt.

The debt is by-design, unpayable. This is because much of it is dollars created out of thin air with credit, facilitated by fractional-reserve lending.

14 posted on 08/15/2025 6:53:53 AM PDT by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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To: Bob434
so that liberals in government who r3dkl3ssly spent without a care in the world,

And that applies to their underfunded government union pension funds that they tru up with more taxes. Everything should be required to balance annually

15 posted on 08/15/2025 6:55:36 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: frogjerk

The simplest answer to the debt question stares us right in the face. Stop spending

No. Trump gets it. However, the courts have been forcing payment to NGO’s for things that Congress appropriated money for. Yes, Congress holds the purse strings in that you can’t spend more money than appropriated......but the Executive can decide to spend or not to spend the money.

Notice how I didn’t include the Judicial in the decision making based upon the Constitution..........
Yet somehow they are interfering.


16 posted on 08/15/2025 7:08:53 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: delta7
America’s Greatest Heist - A Summary of Jekyll Island and the Federal Reserve - (2 minute video)
17 posted on 08/15/2025 7:12:41 AM PDT by Heartlander
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To: delta7

Shell game. It’s a daunting challenge to attempt to pay down the federal debt.

2024 deficit added to debt - $1.8T
2025 deficit being added to debt (projection) - $1.9T


18 posted on 08/15/2025 7:13:35 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: delta7
Please call me Marty.

I run the ArmstrongEconomics scam site.

The worth of my advice can be measured by my three bankruptcies and losing over $700,000,000 of my clients' funds in bad trades.

That failed ponzi scheme got me eleven years in the federal pen.

signed, Martin Armstrong

19 posted on 08/15/2025 7:19:46 AM PDT by TexasGator (The 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: delta7

“The ONLY way to defend against our insane Neocons is to pull together as a united front with Russia, China, North Korea, and others against the West.”

1 posted on 8/4/2025, 12:40:57 PM by delta7


20 posted on 08/15/2025 7:20:32 AM PDT by TexasGator (The 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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