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Posted on 08/15/2025 5:26:45 AM PDT by Farcesensitive
https://x.com/fleshsimulator/status/1955731572206002635
lol someone created a website to let Americans apply to the market surveys for unlisted H1B-earmarked job openings that have already been given to a foreign applicant
If any US citizen applies to one of these, they legally can’t issue an H1B for it hahahahahahahahaha
Jobs.now
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“And if there were such jobs, would it not be because they paid below the market rate?”
Employers hiring H-1B visa workers are required to “pay the nonimmigrant workers at least the local prevailing wage or the employer’s actual wage, whichever is higher; pay for non-productive time in certain circumstances; and offer benefits on the same basis as for U.S. workers.”
https://web.archive.org/web/20241219121441/https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/elg/h1b.htm#BasicPro
LOL - This should have come from The Bee
Ah, no. Here’s a real-world example:
“I’m not sure this really debunks the “H1Bs are underpaid” argument. I’m an H1B myself (in finance not tech). First, let’s look at how DOL actually determines the market wage:
The DOL estimates the market wage for H‑1B jobs by taking the average wage for workers in the same geographic area and same occupation who have similar levels of experience and skills, using wage surveys from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. DOL calls this average market rate the “prevailing wage” and provides for four levels based on skills, experience, and responsibilities (1. Entry; 2. Qualified; 3. Experienced; 4. Fully competent or supervisory).
If most of the H1B sponsors are top companies like FAANG/big banks who hire above-average workers, the average wage for a software engineer is a very low bar to clear. I just checked Goldman Sach’s 2024 successful H1B applications: they are paying $115k for an Associate, Quantitative Engineering in NYC. That’s undoubtedly below the market rate for experienced quant dev roles in 2024. I’m at a much less prestigious firm than Goldman, but our fresh grads make ~25% more in base.
https://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=goldman+sachs+%26+co+llc&job=&city=new+york&year=2024
Secondly, the salary on an H1B application only shows the base salary at the time of application, not your total comp or future earning path. While I haven’t been mistreated because of my visa status, the lack of mobility forced many of my friends to put up with low raises/bonuses, slow promotion, and/or unreasonable working hours. That is an indirect wage suppressor.
TLDR:
DOL-determined market rates aren’t a high bar to clear for prestigious companies in any meaningful way. Paying a 90th percentile worker a 60th percentile wage is underpaying.
Even without overt mistreatment of H1Bs, the lack of mobility can affect bonuses, future earnings, and the ability to get out of bad work environments (which an American can demand more salary for).”
Note: Increasingly Indians are the hiring managers and likely to only consider H1Bs, while paying them very well.
Stop holding back.
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