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Trump Agrees on Ukraine Red Lines With Europe Before Summit With Putin
Wall Street Journal MSN News ^ | 8/13/2025 | Bojan Pancevski

Posted on 08/13/2025 12:53:37 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

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1 posted on 08/13/2025 12:53:37 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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I have a better idea. Let the Europeans do the negotiating.

It’s their war.


2 posted on 08/13/2025 12:56:24 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: marcusmaximus

Redline #1: stop Candace Owens from saying Jean, errr, Brigitte is actually a dude


3 posted on 08/13/2025 12:57:12 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: marcusmaximus

binding Western security guarantees

?


4 posted on 08/13/2025 12:57:28 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: marcusmaximus

Its ironic that the same leftists who scream “You cant give Putin ANY Ukrainian land” are the same ones who demand that Israel give up parts of their land for peace notice how it works


5 posted on 08/13/2025 12:57:31 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: PGR88

Do you think Macron knows who she is?


6 posted on 08/13/2025 12:59:01 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

She/He?


7 posted on 08/13/2025 1:00:12 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

Trump needs to be reminded hourly how the Deep State bent him over a table and buggered him for 8 straight years defending their Ukrainian/NAZI crime racket. Oh, and watch what comes crawling out of the woodwork when this meeting starts. I remember what they did the last time they met.


8 posted on 08/13/2025 1:02:16 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” -Matthew 5:9)
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To: marcusmaximus
"Europe" are enemies of freedom. We should stop being in any sort of military alliance with them.

We can trade (not military hardware), but that's it.

9 posted on 08/13/2025 1:05:48 PM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along.)
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“They are great people who want to see a deal done,” Trump said of his European partners...

I see the opposite.


10 posted on 08/13/2025 1:07:07 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: marcusmaximus

Consider the source...


11 posted on 08/13/2025 1:07:21 PM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: BenLurkin

The issue is that the International Criminal Court has a warrant out for Putin’s arrest, so there’s no ability to hold diplomatic meetings in Europe.


12 posted on 08/13/2025 1:17:01 PM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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“are the same ones who demand that Israel give up parts of their land for peace notice how it works...”

Well, Israel is full of Jews. So that’s completely different.

Euro elites have been persistently ridding themselves of Jews since the 1930’s. Why should we expect anything else from them?


13 posted on 08/13/2025 1:18:26 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Dogbert41

Trump knows. This is a feeble attempt by the Trump hating children at WSJ to push narrative that the EU put little Donald in his place. Pathetic and ridiculous.


14 posted on 08/13/2025 1:22:30 PM PDT by iamgalt
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To: BenLurkin
It's not "their war."

Most European countries were perfectly OK buying Russian gas over the years. The U.S. destroyed the Nordstream pipeline to put an end to that.

This has been all about the U.S. and UK asserting their dominance over the rest of Europe -- even to the point of pushing them into a conflict with Russia that none of them ever wanted.

15 posted on 08/13/2025 1:22:45 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Although my eyes were open, they might just as well be closed.")
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To: marcusmaximus; All

WTF even have a summit if you’re just parroting the Uke position?

Walk away and let them represent it themselves.

Total waste of time and political capital.


16 posted on 08/13/2025 1:32:02 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Nonsense. France has been stronger than Britain.


17 posted on 08/13/2025 1:33:41 PM PDT by Williams (Thank God for the election of President Trump!)
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To: Alberta's Child
--- "Most European countries were perfectly OK buying Russian gas over the years. The U.S. destroyed the Nordstream pipeline to put an end to that."

Pefectly OK then, and still are perfectly OK....

"The EU will gradually and effectively stop the import of Russian gas and oil by the end of 2027, under a legislative proposal put forward by the European Commission today. "

Commission proposes gradual phase-out of Russian gas and oil imports into the EU European Commisson, 16 June 2025.

More sources....

EU Proposes Ban on Russian Oil, Gas Imports by End 2027 Wall Street Journal, 17 June 2025.

EU plans gradual end to Russian gas and oil imports by 2027 Financial World, 17 June 2025.

EU proposes complete ban on Russian gas and oil imports by end of 2027 World ECR from Dow Jones, 19 June 2025.

EU sets 2027 as deadline to phase out all Russian energy Euro News, 6 May 2025.

EU proposes keeping gas storage filling goals until 2027 Reuters, 5 May 2025.

EU plans to stop Russian gas and oil imports by 2027 Yahoo Finance, 18 June 2025.


18 posted on 08/13/2025 1:35:42 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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>western security guarantees
Just as democrats couldn’t get another general amnesty, so they pulled the “temporary protected status” “delayed action” and “political asylum” BS to break our immigration laws, the little twerking pimp isn’t getting de facto NATO membership.
The Russians aren’t stupid. They will never sign something where they agree to a de jure war with the west if the pimp provokes it.
Zylynskyy is the problem. Fire him and everything gets settled.


19 posted on 08/13/2025 1:48:02 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: BenLurkin

Europeans can’t do it, they don’t have the juice Trump has. But when it comes to imposition of severe sanctions after Putin says “no sale”, they will be useful collaborators.


20 posted on 08/13/2025 1:48:56 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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