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Posted on 08/13/2025 12:53:37 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
President Trump agreed with European leaders including Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to red lines for the coming talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Alaska and said he hoped to follow up quickly with a trilateral summit with the two warring leaders.
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“President Trump was very clear that the American desire was to obtain a cease-fire at this meeting in Alaska,” Macron told reporters after the meeting.
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While Trump’s decision last week to meet Putin on American soil worried Europeans, trans-Atlantic relations have since warmed. In a flurry of calls and meetings, senior U.S. officials—including Trump, Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio—signaled their readiness to coordinate closely with Europe on securing a cease-fire and a “fair deal” to end the war, according to participants and briefed officials.
European diplomats said they were particularly impressed by Vance, who met with them in England on Saturday. He showed a strong interest in aligning trans-Atlantic positions ahead of the Putin talks and had a detailed understanding of the situation, participants said.
“They are great people who want to see a deal done,” Trump said of his European partners on Truth Social on Wednesday.
European leaders and Zelensky presented Trump with five succinct red lines to carry into the Alaska summit: a cease-fire as a prerequisite for further talks; any territorial discussions to start from the current front lines; binding Western security guarantees that Russia must accept; Ukraine’s participation in the talks; and support from both the U.S. and Europe, including Ukraine, for any deal.
They relayed to Trump that there would be no legal recognition of occupied territories by Ukraine or Europe, but that a recognition of the situation on the ground could be part of a future deal, several participants said.
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I have a better idea. Let the Europeans do the negotiating.
It’s their war.
Redline #1: stop Candace Owens from saying Jean, errr, Brigitte is actually a dude
binding Western security guarantees
?
Its ironic that the same leftists who scream “You cant give Putin ANY Ukrainian land” are the same ones who demand that Israel give up parts of their land for peace notice how it works
Do you think Macron knows who she is?
She/He?
Trump needs to be reminded hourly how the Deep State bent him over a table and buggered him for 8 straight years defending their Ukrainian/NAZI crime racket. Oh, and watch what comes crawling out of the woodwork when this meeting starts. I remember what they did the last time they met.
We can trade (not military hardware), but that's it.
“They are great people who want to see a deal done,” Trump said of his European partners...
I see the opposite.
Consider the source...
The issue is that the International Criminal Court has a warrant out for Putin’s arrest, so there’s no ability to hold diplomatic meetings in Europe.
“are the same ones who demand that Israel give up parts of their land for peace notice how it works...”
Well, Israel is full of Jews. So that’s completely different.
Euro elites have been persistently ridding themselves of Jews since the 1930’s. Why should we expect anything else from them?
Trump knows. This is a feeble attempt by the Trump hating children at WSJ to push narrative that the EU put little Donald in his place. Pathetic and ridiculous.
Most European countries were perfectly OK buying Russian gas over the years. The U.S. destroyed the Nordstream pipeline to put an end to that.
This has been all about the U.S. and UK asserting their dominance over the rest of Europe -- even to the point of pushing them into a conflict with Russia that none of them ever wanted.
WTF even have a summit if you’re just parroting the Uke position?
Walk away and let them represent it themselves.
Total waste of time and political capital.
Nonsense. France has been stronger than Britain.
Pefectly OK then, and still are perfectly OK....
"The EU will gradually and effectively stop the import of Russian gas and oil by the end of 2027, under a legislative proposal put forward by the European Commission today. "Commission proposes gradual phase-out of Russian gas and oil imports into the EU European Commisson, 16 June 2025.
More sources....
EU Proposes Ban on Russian Oil, Gas Imports by End 2027 Wall Street Journal, 17 June 2025.
EU plans gradual end to Russian gas and oil imports by 2027 Financial World, 17 June 2025.
EU proposes complete ban on Russian gas and oil imports by end of 2027 World ECR from Dow Jones, 19 June 2025.
EU sets 2027 as deadline to phase out all Russian energy Euro News, 6 May 2025.
EU proposes keeping gas storage filling goals until 2027 Reuters, 5 May 2025.
EU plans to stop Russian gas and oil imports by 2027 Yahoo Finance, 18 June 2025.
>western security guarantees
Just as democrats couldn’t get another general amnesty, so they pulled the “temporary protected status” “delayed action” and “political asylum” BS to break our immigration laws, the little twerking pimp isn’t getting de facto NATO membership.
The Russians aren’t stupid. They will never sign something where they agree to a de jure war with the west if the pimp provokes it.
Zylynskyy is the problem. Fire him and everything gets settled.
Europeans can’t do it, they don’t have the juice Trump has. But when it comes to imposition of severe sanctions after Putin says “no sale”, they will be useful collaborators.
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