ADDRESSING THREATS TO THE UNITED STATES BY THE GOVERNMENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION

White house.gov ^ | 8/6/2025 | Donald J Trump

[marcusmaximus]

Your Putin has 2 days to end his invasion.

[escapefromboston]

Now start banning h1b and student visas from India

[PIF]

In addition to oil, India continues to supply Russia with parts for its drones

[ransomnote]

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled ADDRESSING THREATS TO THE UNITED STATES BY THE GOVERNMENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION, marcusmaximus wrote:

Your Putin has 2 days to end his invasion.

Our Trump is doing everything he can to save the lives of Ukrainians for which Zelensky has no regard. Z and NATO will 'fight' down to the last Ukraine, Russia will oblige, and Trump is trying to save Ukrainian lives. I'm proud of our President Trump. Your Zelensky is a stupid thug.

[kiryandil]

Zelya’s little cheerboy, mucus.

[grey_whiskers]

Now start banning h1b and student visas from India

I like the way you think.

[Racketeer]

C’mon man. It is payback. Many WHITE CHRISTIAN men are getting killed on both sides!!

Now, follow the money.

[tumblindice]

We need more Indians like the Saudis need more sand.
Suspend the H1b visa program. GTH Microdoft.

[cowboyusa]

Gfy

[tumblindice]

The toughest job I ever had?
Selling Cars Door to Door, by Tor Johnson

[Racketeer]

Can you explain how?

[gleeaikin]

We will certainly need far fewer H1b doctors from India now that the Big Beautiful Bill has cut so many people from Medicaid and Medicare. They will no longer be needed for the many rural areas where people have been shirking work to claim medical benifits who will now discover they are healthier than they were able to claim before. Good thing, too, since so few American doctors want to work in those places or the inner cities where such layabouts lurk, laze, and enjoy their drugs or booze.

[BroJoeK]

ransomnote: "Our Trump is doing everything he can to save the lives of Ukrainians for which Zelensky has no regard.
Z and NATO will 'fight' down to the last Ukraine, Russia will oblige, and Trump is trying to save Ukrainian lives.
I'm proud of our President Trump.
Your Zelensky is a stupid thug."

According to Pres. Trump, for 2025, to date:

1. 112,500 Russian forces killed.

2. 8,000 Ukrainian forces killed.

3. 14:1 ratio of Russians to Ukrainians killed YTD.

Year to date total Russian casualties (killed, wounded, captured), estimated by Ukrainians and others at around 260,000 for the capture of about 1,200 square miles (YTD) of Ukraine (one half of one percent), or roughly 215 Russian casualties per square mile taken.

That is an exchange rate Ukrainian can maintain as long as supplies of military necessities continue.

So, finally, your beloved mad-Vlad the Invader wants to meet Pres. Trump, in Alaska(!), now that Trump seriously threatens mad-Vlad's oil revenues.

If Trump can get war in Ukraine stopped, that will be a major accomplishment, allowing Trump to turn Ukraine over to the Euros and letting the US "pivot" towards facing the larger global threats in the Indo-Pacific.

Crimean War -- 1853-1856
Russia lost, sold Alaska to the US for $7.1 million, to pay off Russia's Crimean War debts:

Russia sold Alaska to pay for Russia losing the Crimean War:

[McGruff]

“14:1 ratio of Russians to Ukrainians killed YTD.”

If you believe that I have a bridge to Crimea I’ll sell you. The opposite is more likely true.

[BroJoeK]

quoting BJK: "14:1 ratio of Russians to Ukrainians killed YTD.”

McGruff : "If you believe that I have a bridge to Crimea I’ll sell you.
The opposite is more likely true."

It doesn't matter what I believe -- several organizations publish their estimates of casualties and all except Russian propaganda correlate to Ukrainian estimates, so take your pick of any of them.

It does matter a lot what Pres. Trump believes, and my numbers above are his, published on Truth Social.
So, if you have a bridge to sell, you might want to talk it over with Pres. Trump.

If you want a logical explanation of that 14:1 ratio, it's this:

• 3.5:1 overall casualty ratio, Russian to Ukrainian soldiers.
  This is combined killed, wounded and missing and reflects Russia's "meat wave" assaults against dug-in Ukrainian defensive positions.

• 4:1 Russian wounded who die for every Ukrainian who dies from wounds.
  Also reflecting Russia's "meat wave" assault tactics, it shows superior Ukrainian medical services, along with Ukraine's understanding that, unlike Russians, they cannot afford to lose lives that might otherwise be saved.
  Ukraine's overall wounded-to-killed ratio of ~9:1 is comparable to the US in Afghanistan at 11:1.

• 3.5 X 4 = 14:1

Here's Trump's Truth Social post:

"Truth Details
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

I have just been informed that almost 20,000 Russian soldiers died this month in the ridiculous War with Ukraine.
Russia has lost 112,500 soldiers since the beginning of the year.
That is a lot of unnecessary DEATH!
Ukraine, however, has also suffered greatly.
They have lost approximately 8,000 soldiers since January 1, 2025, and that number does not include their missing.
Ukraine has also lost civilians, but in smaller numbers, as Russian rockets crash into Kyiv, and other Ukrainian locales.
This is a War that should have never happened — This is Biden’s War, not “TRUMP’s.”
I’m just here to see if I can stop it!

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[McGruff]

You use Wikipedia to provide your causality numbers, that’s a joke.

Trump should fire whoever is giving him causality number. They don’t match anything from the on the ground reports. Don’t you think Ukraine would be touting these supposed numbers.

[kiryandil]

You use Wikipedia to provide your causality numbers, that’s a joke.

He's a joke.

Carefully constructed Walls O' Text with joke data from Wikipedia.

I Wonder why the Russians had 6,000 dead Ukie bodies from Kursk?

Why are the Ukies running out of soldiers?

[ransomnote]

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled ADDRESSING THREATS TO THE UNITED STATES BY THE GOVERNMENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION, BroJoeK wrote:

quoting BJK: "14:1 ratio of Russians to Ukrainians killed YTD.”

McGruff : "If you believe that I have a bridge to Crimea I’ll sell you.
The opposite is more likely true."

It doesn't matter what I believe -- several organizations publish their estimates of casualties and all except Russian propaganda correlate to Ukrainian estimates, so take your pick of any of them.

It does matter a lot what Pres. Trump believes, and my numbers above are his, published on Truth Social.
So, if you have a bridge to sell, you might want to talk it over with Pres. Trump.

If you want a logical explanation of that 14:1 ratio, it's this:

• 3.5:1 overall casualty ratio, Russian to Ukrainian soldiers.
  This is combined killed, wounded and missing and reflects Russia's "meat wave" assaults against dug-in Ukrainian defensive positions.
• 4:1 Russian wounded who die for every Ukrainian who dies from wounds.
  Also reflecting Russia's "meat wave" assault tactics, it shows superior Ukrainian medical services, along with Ukraine's understanding that, unlike Russians, they cannot afford to lose lives that might otherwise be saved.
  Ukraine's overall wounded-to-killed ratio of ~9:1 is comparable to the US in Afghanistan at 11:1. 
• 3.5 X 4 = 14:1

Here's Trump's Truth Social post:"Truth Details
2844 replies

Avatar
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

I have just been informed that almost 20,000 Russian soldiers died this month in the ridiculous War with Ukraine.
Russia has lost 112,500 soldiers since the beginning of the year.
That is a lot of unnecessary DEATH!
Ukraine, however, has also suffered greatly.
They have lost approximately 8,000 soldiers since January 1, 2025, and that number does not include their missing.
Ukraine has also lost civilians, but in smaller numbers, as Russian rockets crash into Kyiv, and other Ukrainian locales.
This is a War that should have never happened — This is Biden’s War, not “TRUMP’s.”
I’m just here to see if I can stop it!

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Aug 01, 2025, 11:41 AM"

Do you understand that as a diplomat, which is Trump's current role as he tries to negotiate peace, he is expected to adhere at least roughly to the numbers GIVEN HIM BY ZELENSKY????

Recall that Ukraine won't let news crews in because it's largely an intel war NATO/CIA forces are abundant, and because they have been trying to hide the fact that from the start, 'little Ukraine' has been losing badly to Russia. Ukraine's death toll is appallingly higher than it ever admits.

You also 'forgot' to note that the 'lost 8,000' soldiers in Trump's post does 'not include their missing.' Sadly, Ukraine has a poor reporting and recovery rate. Instead of reported the dead, a significant portion are declared missing. Part of it is intentional (intentionally not reporting what happens to soldiers) and in the worst case scenario, that can occur when soldiers too wounded to receive adequate treatment are harvested for organs instead (According to Arch Bishop Abbe Viganos. and he bases his reports on aid organizations). 

So Ukraine lies to keep its numbers down, doesn't always collect the wounded for burial, and in fact has fewer soldiers left on the battlefield to be injured. There are sections of the Ukrainian front line which are entirely unmanned.

Russia has extensive fighting aircraft and pilots to fly them. Ukraine does not. The F-16's given to Ukraine require pristine runways and air defense when on the ground - Ukraine's is inadequate. Ukraine has said so for quite some time - they need more air defenses.

Russia's missiles and missile launchers (aircraft or ground) are more modern and directly controlled (russia provides coordinates) whereas Ukraine's coordinates have to be relayed from NATO. The US gives Ukraine HIMARS and buys Soviet era launchers to launch them.

NATO/Ukraine is bleeding out. Both sides are losing 'too many' as NATO/Zelensky hold on to their chance at drawing the US into the war to start WWIII. Russia is fighting all of NATO (weapons, technology, command/control and soldiers) and NATO employs drones, so it makes sense to me that Russia's numbers are likely accurately reported.

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Logically it's ridiculous to assert that Zelensky's impossibly low, self-reported, or NATO estimated, losses are real. Those who beg for money from day 1 are not likely to admit their loses because they plan to continue to beg for money. They are losing and they are lying about it. Putin's are more realistic, and sadly Ukraine's numbers would likely be markedly higher than Russia's if the truth were known.

From the start, Russia had air dominance and the front lines consisted of attack from above and when Ukrainians retreated, they found their escape route mined.

Sometimes Ukrainian trolls insist that Putin's Russia has 11 time zones and it's huge compared with Ukraine. Other times the same trolls will insist Ukraine is defeating Russia or that RUssia has greater losses overall. So the propaganda fantasy here is that Ukraine's fewer soldiers are killing far more Russians. Part of the ground troops Ukraine is losing are foreign, and they don't count those. But Ukraine is running out of men - and Vice President Vance was correct to say that to Zelensky in the Oval Office. 

Russia retains enough mobility to retrieve the injured. Ukraine does not. Ukraine has been complaining for over a year that they lack adequate ammo for soldiers. Munitions access hasn't been as hard for Russia. 

Both sides are losing 'too many' and the public will draw back in horror when the truth of Ukraine's losses becomes known. 

[BroJoeK]

McGruff: "You use Wikipedia to provide your causality numbers, that’s a joke."

Ukraine's daily Russian losses report:

Wikipedia compiles estimates from several international sources including the US, UK, UN, EU, BBC, Ukraine & others.
They all more-or-less match Ukrainian numbers, with the only major outlier being Russian government propaganda.

So, if you are taking Russian propaganda seriously, then the joke's on you, FRiend.

McGruff: "Trump should fire whoever is giving him causality number.
They don’t match anything from the on the ground reports.
Don’t you think Ukraine would be touting these supposed numbers."

No doubt, Trump's numbers are compilations from DNI, CIA, DIA, NSA & others.
And, in fact, they do well match with those from Ukraine and other western sources.
The great disparity between Russian and Ukrainian battlefield deaths is a reflection of both Russian "meat wave" assault tactics and Russia's corresponding indifference to medical care for wounded troops.

Ukrainians publish their estimates of Russian casualties daily.
They announce their own deaths from time to time.

But, if all you see is Russian propaganda, you won't know anything about that.