Posted on 08/04/2025 10:45:38 AM PDT by Red Badger
Say what? Next you'll insist that the Penthouse letters to the editor weren't real.
Show me hard evidence. Show me even one organized group that is mgtow. There are none. Thismis just your own personal warped speculation.
It would be like me saying I think you are spreading this stupid theory because you are part of the right wing marriage industrial complex.
Men for the last 50 years have been put through the wringer by women and society, and they have decided more and more being involved in a legal contract relationship isnot for them.
You also,seem tovtnink there is no variation. Some guys who are mgtow are married. Some are in ltr’s. Some still date. It depends on the guy and what risks they are personally ok with taking.
Mgtow is a mindset, not a movement or an organization. And there certainly are no women controlling it because how do they control it? Theres nothing to control.
Women are more independent, more bitchy, more argumentative, more disruptive, have more choi es than ever, and are more unhappy than ever before. Men are simply naturally reacting to it and deciding relztionships with women as they are now, its not for them. You’d be an idiot to ignore whats around you and not factor that into your decisions.
Its because men have far more at risk in relationships than women. They have to be more careful, they can lose a lot of assets and have their reputations destroyed very easily. Women do not have those same risks. They know that and capitalize on that. More men understand that now, and thats why they are deciding to avoid unnecessary risks.
Thats because it doesnt. Feminism never needed mgtow to help it fulfil its agenda. Feminists do not rely on men for help and never have. Further feminists do not care what happens to men either way. In fsct feminists would not push for mgtow because that means more men not doing things for women financially and otherwise. Feminists are totally ok with using men for their resources. Look at the feminists who charge men more for items than women.
Feminists also dont want men to have an accurate view of what women and sociefy are doing to them, how they are manipulated and controlled. Mgtow men see that and thats why they opt out to whatever degree they can. Thzts not what feminists want. They want men to be ignorant and controlled by society and women in order to benefit women. Mgtow breaks men from this.
Yes, THERE have always been beautiful women. And men have always been intimidated by them.
I can’t take much that you say about women seriously, given your history of complete bitterness toward the female sex in general.
*Someone must be asking these beautiful women out. Although, I guess it's all done on apps these days.
Just because people have a reaction to something doesnt mean they are “controlled” by that thing. I rewct to many things I am not “controlled” by.
I see zero proof/evidence feminism is behind men not wanting to del with women. Also note 80% of men do not even show up on womens radars to begin with as potential dates/mates, so its hardly a change for men to begin with. Its women all trying to get the upper 10-20% and those guys are either taken or dont want relationships and are enjoying casual relationships. This small group of men is what the women are complaining about.
If anything blame feminism for making women more unattractive and undesirable to men across a wide variety of categories. I will agree with you on that one.
That she does not have a steady boyfriend says it all.
Danger, danger
Do men think that’s beautiful?
These videos where beautiful girls complain about the lack of male attention is just click bait. I don’t believe it for a second.
If you’re married, you shouldn’t be considering yourself available.
For a lot of guys, it’s not easy to approach a beautiful woman. He’s basically taking his ego into his hands and giving her a chance to slight it.
On the flip slide, women will never (directly) approach men—unless maybe they are inebriated. Because with them, the anxiety and ego issues of being rejected are magnified 10X. At least.
RE: My son owns his own property he is not interested in a woman. It is sad.
Does he express the same concerns that I just articulated about women with ulterior motives?
I don’t think that’s necessarily the case for many women.
For countless generations, it was drilled into women that the man makes the first move. (I even remember being told that the first ‘I love you’ from a man shouldn’t be taken too seriously; but the second might be real...)
It takes a long time to get taboos like that out of consciousness.
She ain’t ugly. Could stand to lose a few pounds ... and the narcissistic attitude.
My experience is that about half will play hard to get. The other half will drop hints, sometimes very obvious ones, and wait for the man to take the bait.
A very few times, I had women come on to me directly. This was the exception to the rule. I think in most cases they were inebriated or looking to dish out relationship revenge to someone else.
One very sure sign that a woman is into you is if she offers to pay for something, like food, drink or entertainment, without being prompted. This is rare and falls into the indirect category. I have never found it to be wrong, however.
on a first date take them swimming ... when the makeup washes off you’ll then see the truth ...
Another sure sign is when a lovely women sits on your lap within a few minutes of meeting you. That happened to me 46 years ago in Northern Germany. It was a summer for the ages, a TDY at a German firing range on the Baltic Sea.
The nearby town came to life during the summer, thousands of factory workers took vacation about the same time. Greatest concentration of newly divorced women I've ever seen. They fell in love with my soldiers who gladly reciprocated. We were the only Americans for 200 miles.
We carried on our relationship for my last two years in Germany. Nothing but fond memories of our time together.
Another sure sign is when a lovely women sits on your lap within a few minutes of meeting you.
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