Posted on 07/19/2025 9:55:36 AM PDT by Morgana
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The simple truth is that modern Americans are horrible parents.
Raise pathetic kids.
My solution: The Blow Dart Theory of Child Management
1 blow dart
1 blanket
1 pillow
Truthfully, you buy your seat. What happens in other seats is not really anybody’s business. But in this world of entitlement, this is where we are. I thought at first he was standing on the complainers seat.
“We taught our kids how to behave in public at a young age and made sure they had SOMETHING to do while waiting. The consequences of acting up were not going out any more. And they liked going out.
It kept them peaceful and well behaved.”
That is what all parents did in the old days. If you acted up out in public they took your ass home until you could act right. Then you knew not to do that again.
These parents just sit there and ignore their kids bad behavior and are off in another world. It’s like they found out too late they didn’t want to be parents or something and now want out of it.
Anti-child in what ways?
Objecting to this, I would argue, is appropriate.
I’ve told more than a few parents “Just because you have learned to tune the little bastard out doesn’t mean the rest of us have.” Gotten some dirty go to hell looks but so far no fights.
Yes and no. You also have the right to a calm and peaceful travel experience.
Like I said had this been an adult the staff would have stopped this person yet because it’s a child they let it go on.
The complaining party - let’s call him Brandon - misunderstands property rights and commerce. And life.
Brandon is NOT buying a nuisance-free trip, where his every need and legal want is met by a fawning staff.
Brandon is leasing space on private property, to transport him from point A to B. Terms and conditions - I bet - do NOT guarantee peace and serenity.
What Brandon wants is a Free Lunch. He sounds like a lib…self-entitled, a whiner, and someone who lacks a basic understanding of property rights.
I recommend that Brandon charters a private jet or brushes up on Life 101. Or maybe his girlfriend Karen can buy him some headphones so he can stream NPR on his flight.
“Are they afraid or is this that new fangled “free range” or “gentle parenting” that these young parents are doing?”
Both. It was a generalization admittedly.
I was thinking that in this current soft culture young parents may be afraid to discipline children in public because of what others might think about them or video them.
There is also what you say that the trend these days is to be soft “free range” parents.
Yes. His complaints are fair.
I have been fortunate not to travel by airline for many years and not to work for a living for nearly a decade now. Before that I traveled around 250 days per year and did not see a fraction of the mayhem people report now; not in the terminals or on the airplanes.
Only once in my many years and millions of flight miles was I party to a very unacceptable situation involving parents and children. It was on a Christmas flight from Lagos to Frankfort. The parents had managed to get past the gate, probably managed by a friend, with two very large children they claimed were “lap babies”. The flight crew was not having it and told them to deplane, they refused and raised a ruckus. Security would not get them off, also probably friends. The pilot would not take off unless they were deplaned. Eventually, other passengers raised such a fuss the parents and their “lap babies” left the airplane. It took about an hour and a half to get them off.
I felt lucky to get a flight on short notice and the family was not expecting me so I flew home to an empty house the family having gone to be with the rest of the family for Christmas.
“Choctaw Bingo”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWEJPqJtZsk
“Strap in the kids and give them a little vodka in the cherry cola”
Everyone is afraid of cell phones. The way they manipulate the video has everyone petrified.
Nick we love children, just well behaved ones.
If parents can’t or won’t be parents then their offspring is just not allowed. Sorry, not sorry.
Like metmom said if they can’t behave take them home till they can. Oh but they don’t want to do that and you know why!? They will miss out too. Oh well that is what happens when YOU are now the parent. You have to miss out because your child won’t be quiet and stop throwing a temper tantrum in wal mart, a movie theater, on a plane, in church, Macdonald or any where else in public that is fun for you too.
No they wanna be like this dad and put their head in the clouds both literally and figuratively.
I guess the flight attendants nazi behavior doesn’t extend past bullying people about wearing their covid masks.
Something like this happened to me 40plus years ago. My oldest son who was around 4 started to “pitch a Fit” in Walmart. I got down and was Eye to Eye to to him and threaten to spank him in front of everyone if he didn’t ‘knock it off!. That was it! He shut up and behaved after that.
> Increasingly parents seem afraid to discipline their children. Not just airplanes but everywhere.<
Times are different. We would have received a swat on the backside for acting up at the grocery store. Everyone would have nodded in appreciation.
Today, some Karen would screech at you and call CPS for you abusing your child. That same Karen would also call the police on your child for misbehaving later, since the child never received discipline.
EC
And when the kids hit 18 and act out like that and finally face the consequences for their actions by the police, they have no idea what they did wrong.
Parents are doing their kids no favors by not discipling them.
In case it's cold and/or depressurized, they can have a wetsuit and SCUBA gear, and they'll think it's a game.
I usually just engage with the kid a little, and it often quiets them right down.
Just because their parents are signaling doesn’t mean the kid won’t respond well to a friendly chat.
My Dad used to produce a paper bag or quarter something and do a simple magic trick, then let the kid puzzle over it. They always want to know how it is done and showing them helps pass the time and engages their brain.
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