Posted on 07/18/2025 3:48:37 AM PDT by RandFan
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Rep. MTG: The American people didn’t ask for this war. Or this debt. They don’t want to fund mass death in Ukraine. This is an unwinnable war. Over 1.5M killed or wounded. An entire generation of men wiped out. Americans want peace not murder.
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LOL, not our enemy Russia, has thousands of nukes targeting us.
“ In before the Zeepers, neocons, mystery meat and foreigners start screeding and shilling.”
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They are like an UNTHINKING MOB OF ZOMBIES.
Let’s go back to my original point. Do you really think any of these countries are going to meet their 5% commitment by lining the pockets of Lindsey Graham’s defense contractor employers?
Well they ALL met the 2% they were supposed to by this year. As to 5% in 2035 if the Ukraine Invasion is over, and Putin is not a threat, probably not.
As long as they are Zeepers, Neo Cons, Lindsey Graham Worshipers, One Worlders, Globalists, the War in Ukraine will never end. If not Russia, they will fight some one else. Why? Because of the afore mentioned individuals and groups, wars are money, profit. The more wars, the longer they last, the more dollars to line their pockets with. The afore mentioned groups and individuals continue to line their pockets and fatten their bank accounts. The Hell with the suffering of others. Gimmie me my money!
“not one of them is actually in the holy Ukieland to fight for their strong beliefs and convictions”
You have a point. I hadn’t considered that.
Of course. The MIC Eisenhower warned us about decades ago. (I think it was Ike.)
Wrong—it is not an unwinnable war. Russia is slowly winning the thing and may well roll into Kiev in a few months. Ukraine is reduced to drafting kids and elderly to fill in the lines—next it will be women. Many are deserting the cause, a few switching sides and fighting for Russia. STOP IT NOW before another life is lost! Let Ukraine surrender and call for Trump to work a deal—He can get things right and Ukraine will be smaller but free. Putin will not live forever—in time people will forget why the war was being fought in the first place.
“As long as they are Zeepers, Neo Cons, Lindsey Graham Worshipers, One Worlders, Globalists, the War in Ukraine will never end. If not Russia, they will fight some one else. Why? Because of the afore mentioned individuals and groups, wars are money, profit. The more wars, the longer they last, the more dollars to line their pockets with. The afore mentioned groups and individuals continue to line their pockets and fatten their bank accounts. The Hell with the suffering of others. Gimmie me my money!”
Plain and simple right there. The only winners of these wars are the Global Corporations. The real losers are those souls who are exterminated and our own Grandchildren and Great Grandchildren who will have to pay for it...
“STOP IT NOW before another life is lost!”
10% YES! That is ALL Trump wants.
I even wonder if Trump should try to “work a deal”. Step away and let them duke it out.
What a limp accusation. I merely posted sources as hotlink URLs. Read them any way you like. I read "opt out" as "opt out."
If you don't buy a product or accept an assertion, your reason may well be different than another's, and yet the decision is the decision.
Macron says he wants to bolster French armament production. Fine. Italy calls "to explore alternative ways to contribute." Also fine. Kyiv Independent reports concerns over "fiscal limitations" for some. Fine too.
State any reason you'd like. That upshot is that the US being paid for weapons from France, Italy, Hungary and the Czech Republik ( I have worked in all of them ) is not proceeding in the moment.
That leaves the UK and Germany and some smaller neighbors to pay for US weapons under the "sell" plan, in the moment. This being an evolving theme, one awaits more events, statements and actions.
But no dishonesty.
Your comment -- "74" -- states "European countries are going to BUY US weapons and ship them to Ukraine.." Some are. Some aren't, in this moment. How long it will take to piece "together Europe's defense industrial base" is a matter of time. Days? Weeks? Months? Years? For today and per Z-media, some are opting out -- for whatever reasons they so state. That's it.
“This is an unwinnable war”
Never was a path to victory. Just more death, destruction and wasted Billions. Still a chance for WW III.
You shouldn't speak for others.
And if you posted in those words it would have been fine, but in your post you said "Even among "Zelensky supporters," one finds some European "supporters" backing away"
Which gives the impression these countries are backing away from supporting Zelensky, which is far from the truth.
France and Italy are strong supporters of Ukraine.
Both sides want to act like babies, but we end uo getting a little money out of it. From now on it should be only LOANS, not aid.
Never was a path to victory.
Its amazing Russia under Putin seems to be the only country in all of time that cannot be defeated. Incredible
Stalemate, would be a victory to the defender Ukraine.
Or let me guess, that's also impossible with Russia under Putin?
“Trump must be talking about his boy Bibi.”
Please elaborate.
As are -- in the words of MTG in the video which began this thread -- "every single Democrat."
I don't "stand with" a government. Governments change, as one has watched from the Idiot Biden to President Trump. Soon enough Z and P both will be gone. It is the way of this world.
I proudly stand with our wonderful Declaration of Independence and US Constitution. These have withstood most "every single Democrat." Not to mention Liz Cheney and her support for Harris-Walz.
“From the beginning, I wanted no part of what EU NATO members wanted. They are trying to destroy the USA, by bankrupting our nation to try and do the un-do-able.”
If the EU is paying for American Arms to go to Ukraine, who am I to stop them.
Ukraine, which historians call the Kievan Rus, was founded by Swedish Vikings, then conquered by the Tartars, then the Lithuanians, who merged with the Poles. Then Poland was divided between Austria, Prussia, and Russia. But, people everywhere just want to be free.
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