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From Carthage To Berlin, A Modest Proposal
American Thinker ^ | 17 Jul, 2025 | Vince Coyner

Posted on 07/17/2025 4:32:58 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Sometimes, certain countries are so destructive to civilization that they must be brought to heel.

The First Punic War began in 264 BC, lasted 25 years, and was fought between the Romans and the Carthaginians, a civilization in what is today modern Tunisia. The Carthaginians were the most powerful and prosperous force in the Western Mediterranean and North Africa, while the Romans were a growing power on the Italian peninsula. After two decades, with both sides financially and demographically exhausted, Rome prevailed. Carthage ceded Sicily, Sardinia, and Corsica, and paid substantial reparations.

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Today, across the West, there is a growing ideology that is anathema to free speech, freedom of religion, free press, women’s rights, and more. And it’s violently so. At the current rate of demographic change, native Europeans will be a minority in Europe soon after the middle of the century, and Western civilization will not be far behind, if it survives that long.

If it were just Angela Merkel, we might be able to give Germany a pass, but it’s not. The EU’s Ursula von der Leyen and the WEF’s Klaus Schwab are both also spawn of Germany and were Merkel’s fellow travelers when she was in power—and maintained her cancerous ideas once she left.

At the end of the day, from giving us Karl Marx to facilitating the Bolshevik revolution by returning Lenin to Russia, to beginning two world wars and shepherding the current collapse of the West, Germany has been the fount of more strife and more bloodshed over the last 200 years than any nation on the planet. And it’s not even close.

It’s likely too late for Europe to save itself, although it’s possible that Western civilization could survive the collapse of the place of its origin.

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1 posted on 07/17/2025 4:32:58 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

I think Europe is lost. I am not sure we can fix the Biden illegal invasion. It will take some backbone.


2 posted on 07/17/2025 4:33:10 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Once all the Germans were warlike and mean
But that couldn’t happen again
We taught them a lesson in 1918
And they’ve hardly bothered us since then

— Tom Lehrer


3 posted on 07/17/2025 4:41:22 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (When the night falls, it falls on me. And when the day breaks, I'm in pieces.)
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To: MtnClimber

“I think Europe is lost. I am not sure we can fix the Biden illegal invasion. It will take some backbone.”

Europe lost everything when their women, who can vote and hold office, took over control - and they have NO INTENTION of stopping the Islamic takeover. Now, nothing short of a civil war so bloody that it would make Hitler blush is the only option, short of the fate that Carthage had.

We had the some thing under Biden (after all, who was working the autopen?), but not now. And as you say, reversing the damage will take a lot of BACKBONE. RINOs may not like it, but voting (or not voting) for them and letting Democrats win...simply means we will have the same fate as Europe and Carthage.


4 posted on 07/17/2025 4:55:48 AM PDT by BobL
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To: MtnClimber

First we take Manhattan.

Then we take Berlin.

L


5 posted on 07/17/2025 5:03:07 AM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: MtnClimber

Carthage, now a hilltop within the city of Tunis, was demolished - burned out and wiped from the face of the earth. All living there were killed or enslaved.

All of them.


6 posted on 07/17/2025 5:08:56 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: MtnClimber
...from giving us Karl Marx to facilitating the Bolshevik revolution by returning Lenin to Russia, to beginning two world wars and shepherding the current collapse of the West, Germany has been the fount of more strife and more bloodshed over the last 200 years than any nation on the planet. And it’s not even close.

:It is odd isn't it?

Q: How did Marx survive without ever having a job?
A: He knew all the Engels.

7 posted on 07/17/2025 5:11:44 AM PDT by Rummyfan ( In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.👨 )
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To: FlyingEagle

It was only after the third war that Carthage’s destruction occurred. After the first two wars Carthage was left to recover and the result of that was the start of yet another war.


8 posted on 07/17/2025 5:24:16 AM PDT by ChronicMA
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To: MtnClimber

Paging Charles Martel.


9 posted on 07/17/2025 5:38:05 AM PDT by central_va (The I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: BobL

Nimes, France has an Arab ghetto I rode hike through.

It’s like being in Damascus. Useless, dirty, dangerous.

Midsized towns in France are now reliably dangerous.


10 posted on 07/17/2025 6:41:29 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Angelino97’s 100% anti-Semitic lie: “Settlers tend to be ultra-Orthodox Jews, armed with Uzis.”)
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To: MtnClimber

Thanks for posting. I’ve long thought of Merkel’s opening up Europe to “Asians” did more to destroy Europe than either Wilhelm II or Hitler ever dreamed.


11 posted on 07/17/2025 6:44:21 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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Tired of having to fight the Carthaginians, Rome would obliterate them. They subsumed everything the Carthaginians had, declared it illegal to rebuild the city, and sold off its remaining population into slavery. As intended, Carthage would never again pose a problem for the Romans.

However, the city was rebuilt, and, ironically, at one point almost became the capital of the Roman Empire when the Roman emperor Flavius Heraclius considered moving the capital from Constantinople, which was under threat from barbarians, to Carthage.

12 posted on 07/17/2025 8:01:12 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Uncle Miltie
Nimes, France has an Arab ghetto I rode hike through.

I was in Nimes in 1965 and saw no sign of Arabs there. However, I don't recall seeing Africans or Middle Easterners anywhere in Europe at the time.

13 posted on 07/17/2025 8:03:45 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: ChronicMA

Roosevelt Street is one of the main streets in Carthage today, but I don’t think it had that name in Hannibal’s day.


14 posted on 07/17/2025 8:05:51 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: MtnClimber

Ceterum censeo Berolinum esse delendam.


15 posted on 07/17/2025 10:44:59 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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