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We Need Clear Heads, And A Plan, About Epstein-Gate
American Thinker ^ | 15 Jul, 2025 | Julian R. Sinclair

Posted on 07/15/2025 11:36:24 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Demanding that everything instantly be released—assuming that the Deep State didn’t already destroy incriminating materials—is a recipe for disaster.

Over 90% of the responses and discussion about the way the Trump Administration has mishandled the Epstein documents and records have been emotional, vitriolic, or filled with outrage. I can understand why and agree to a large degree: What Jeffrey Epstein did, likely with the approval (if not outright endorsement) of Western intelligence agencies, was a crime against humanity. However, it is in these moments when faced with immense evil that we must proceed with clear heads and not react emotionally.

It speaks well to our side that, unlike the four years in which Biden did not release the Epstein documents, there is a collective rage from the right at the Trump administration’s gross mishandling (some would argue outright cover-up, but I doubt this) of the case. Unlike the Democrats, we demand and hold our leaders accountable, even when it might hurt us. That is because our side actually believes in justice and accountability, even when it is not convenient for us.

However, we should avoid demanding resignations unilaterally, getting angry, or shouting “Damn the consequences, release it all!” None of us who aren’t in the Trump administration really have all the facts, and even if we did, those responses would be based on emotional outrage and not good sense, or even blind justice.

What might be the consequences of just “releasing it all, damn the consequences!” We don’t know how far this crime against humanity goes, but let us assume that it involves world leaders, Fortune 500 CEOs, and the elite across the entire world. First, we have no idea which world leaders it would affect, which regions it would destabilize, or even which company’s stocks would be affected.

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1 posted on 07/15/2025 11:36:24 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

Who does not believe that the leftist Deep State FBI would not take democRATs off the list and put Republicans on the list for political gain? And leave it on Bondi’s desk.


2 posted on 07/15/2025 11:37:28 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Agreed.

Just remember that every single person who has been duped is in the administration.

They opened this can of worms.


3 posted on 07/15/2025 11:39:02 AM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: MtnClimber

Do the media’s job for them. Keep this garbage front and enter while the damn Senators run out the clock on recission package.


4 posted on 07/15/2025 11:41:37 AM PDT by Kudsman (I am Coal baby! Burning for you. )
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To: MtnClimber

“We need clear heads.”

You’re in the wrong place.


5 posted on 07/15/2025 11:42:39 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck, 1980, Reno, NV)
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To: Kudsman

If the administration had not hyped the Epstein files for months none of us would even be talking about it.

The blame lies there.


6 posted on 07/15/2025 11:43:28 AM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: MtnClimber

Uh oh. They added “gate” at the end. It’s serious now.


7 posted on 07/15/2025 11:43:56 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us )
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To: MtnClimber

I was really upset when the Trump Admin suddenly decided there were no Epstein files. It felt like a betrayal. I was very unhappy. But my mind has changed.

I figure the Biden Admin destroyed a lot of material that made Democrats look bad. I also suspect that the Biden Admin manufactured a lot of fictitious nonsense and inserted that into the Epstein files. Hey, maybe Ronald Reagan went to Epstein Island! So, the current contents are completely unreliable.

Had bogus files been released under Joe Biden, people would have looked at them and said, “Wait a minute. I don’t believe this is real.” But if Trump could be tricked into releasing this bogus material, people would say, “Got to be real. Trump released it. So it’s good stuff, right?” I see Democrats trying to get it released all of a sudden, and that tells me it’s a game.

I’d like to see the CIA and the FBI totally abolished. I think good would come from that. But trying to figure out what Epstein and Maxwell were up to? I no longer think the juice is worth the squeeze. I think it’s booby-trapped now.


8 posted on 07/15/2025 11:43:56 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (When the night falls, it falls on me. And when the day breaks, I'm in pieces.)
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To: MtnClimber
The Epstein story at this point is more distraction than anything that can be tangibly gained.


9 posted on 07/15/2025 11:44:07 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: MtnClimber

Even if its tainted info. The handling of this was so poor its laughable.


10 posted on 07/15/2025 11:44:23 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: MtnClimber
Facts are facts. So why wasn't a grand jury convened to establish fact? I really don't care who was involved as long as it is disclosed in truth.

The bar is mighty low. For goodness sakes, P.Diddy is something of a hero to many. Bill Clinton is a Saint. Anthony Weiner is holding public office. Barney Frank ran the congress. Andrew Cuomo is running for mayor. I could go on.

11 posted on 07/15/2025 11:45:32 AM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) "Diggin the scene with a gangster lean" (Mayfield, Curtis) )
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To: ClearCase_guy
I figure the Biden Admin destroyed a lot of material that made Democrats look bad. I also suspect that the Biden Admin manufactured a lot of fictitious nonsense and inserted that into the Epstein files. Hey, maybe Ronald Reagan went to Epstein Island! So, the current contents are completely unreliable.

It would make sense that Trump is able to blackmail RINOs but not Democrats.

12 posted on 07/15/2025 11:46:25 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Bayard

It’s not about gain, tangible or not. It’s about right and wrong. They don’t get this right as rain, there will be no trust from the public.


13 posted on 07/15/2025 11:47:27 AM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) "Diggin the scene with a gangster lean" (Mayfield, Curtis) )
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To: ClearCase_guy

Very good analysis. I agree.


14 posted on 07/15/2025 11:47:32 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Skooz

“”Uh oh. They added “gate” at the end. It’s serious now.””

Lol!


15 posted on 07/15/2025 11:48:31 AM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: MtnClimber

“First, we have no idea which world leaders it would affect, which regions it would destabilize, or even which company’s stocks would be affected.”

I hate to say this, but we really have to hold everyone on equal terms. We can’t let “special” folks get away with something because of their impact. That only leads to this behavior continuing.


16 posted on 07/15/2025 11:50:18 AM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: MtnClimber

I believe the Clinton’s and obama have embellished the files and the story. I am skeptical we will see the truth of epstein, ever. No matter how much is released.


17 posted on 07/15/2025 11:50:21 AM PDT by exnavy (See article IV section 4 of our constitution.)
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To: Bayard

Yes. It’s the handling that upsets me now. I think the Trump Admin had a lot to say about the Epstein files before they ever looked at the Epstein files. That set them up badly if they came to conclude that the Epstein files had been replaced by fiction.

I believe some months ago at a news conference, Pam Bondi was asked if Epstein was an intelligence agent. She said, “I don’t know.” REALLY? That tells me she hadn’t even begun to look at anything or undertake an investigation. You don’t know? FBI? CIA? Mossad? You haven’t even looked into these possibilities? The MAGA base has been speculating about this for over 5 years. But you don’t have an opinion? Haven’t started the investigation yet? Then why are you even talking about Epstein at all? That’s how this blew up in their face.


18 posted on 07/15/2025 11:50:53 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (When the night falls, it falls on me. And when the day breaks, I'm in pieces.)
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To: blackdog

I agree. But if the list or evidence is tainted, Pam Bondi should never have said what she said on TV.

The talking heads from Trump’s team should have simply stated “we’re looking into the available evidence to verify what is actionable”

A few months ago most people would have said this was fine. Instead, Pam Blondi said, “oh I have videos and evidence on my desk” and, “we will release it soon!”

Its an absolute disaster what the Trump team did.


19 posted on 07/15/2025 11:52:49 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: ClearCase_guy

“”Had bogus files been released under Joe Biden, people would have looked at them and said, “Wait a minute. I don’t believe this is real.” But if Trump could be tricked into releasing this bogus material, people would say, “Got to be real. Trump released it. So it’s good stuff, right?” I see Democrats trying to get it released all of a sudden, and that tells me it’s a game.””

Excellent points. A shock-sure rule of thumb is always if the Democrats are for it, it’s bad and we should be against it. I have concluded that Trump is correct on his stance re: this. Now, if he can just reign in and change the minds of Laura, Patel and Bongino... along with a lot of his other supporters.


20 posted on 07/15/2025 11:53:16 AM PDT by Danie_2023
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