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To: SunkenCiv

One of the things the egghead’s don’t like to admit is the effect of Religion on the birth of Civilization. There has not been, to my knowledge , any Civilization that started up without it . Even now the efforts to erase Religion from Civilization have been a disaster as the Soviet Union proved.


3 posted on 07/07/2025 10:28:03 PM PDT by Nateman (Democrats did not strive for fraud friendly voting merely to continue honest elections.)
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To: Nateman

An interesting hypo7. I’ve never thought about religion’s effect on the BIRTH of civilizations. I always thought that is was correlated but not a creating factor, but now when you talk a out it and what we know of Gobekli Tepe, that this first started as a religious place that led to agricultural use and permanent buildings, keeping that in mind makes sense.

But can you elaborate on what you have thought, your conclusions etc?


4 posted on 07/08/2025 12:36:12 AM PDT by Cronos (on the tradition of St. Augustine (5th century), Catholics combine the prohibition against "no other)
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To: Nateman
Civilization is the result of agriculture and the need of fixed populations to defend their farmland and fields of food, and religion arose as a result of civilization, not the other way around. The USSR collapsed because of its rejection of reality, e.g., the market economy.

14 posted on 07/08/2025 5:55:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Dear leftists, that victory was just the undercard. Time for the main event.)
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