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Posted on 06/25/2025 8:51:03 AM PDT by mikelets456
Ignore the link but it gets to my point. First let me say, I voted for Trump 3 times, had a Trump flag hanging out front and support 99% of what he does. My concern are the uncertainty with tariffs. I have asked customers on a daily basis for the past 2 months how business is and across SS the board the uncertainty of the tariffs is KILLING business. We sell to these companies and we are dead. Most manufacturers are dead and businesses overall are dead. I can’t believe this has gone on for so long. I think if he simply raised tariffs 5% across the board and got these tax cuts through we would be booming. But it’s been 6 months and getting eerily quiet. Go ahead flame away, but if this goes on much longer our economy will be heading in a downward spiral.
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That very uncertainty is what is driving many companies to restart manufacturing here. It is bringing huge investment we would never have had and would have gone to China or Vietnam.
To right the ship, taking drastic measures are sometimes needed.
Your beef on that tax cuts is with Thune not Trump.
I would prefer bringing businesses back with tax exemptions and less red tape then when it gets rolling add the tariffs. I just lost my job of 38 years due to the Biden BS policies and I’m ready to let se this job because of this one policy. His first term business was amazing. Best it ever was…need that now.
try breaking your pills in half ... for starters ...
I understand that. I never said that I blamed Trump for that but the tariff uncertainty is 100% caused manufacturing to a crawl.
I’m suppressing the urge to use words like stupid and idiot also moron and imbecile and the related adjectives. I see a lot of positive signs even here in California when I go places and see people working. It’s going to be hard to get an economy going when a chuck roast costs 45.00. That is not a result of tariffs it’s a result of inflation in previous years.
We’ve got suppliers both internationally and domestically. Trump’s tariffs are generally having the effect he intended.
That doesn’t mean it won’t be unpleasant for some
Our domestic suppliers are BOOMING. They are running full-blast and turning away orders. Investing in new production lines isn’t an overnight decision, but if it keeps up, at some point they will have to commit to the domestic investment
Our international orders are somewhat declining. Suppliers (particularly Asia) are indeed trying to make price deals to overcome tariffs, but the notion they can just “eat the tariff” is not true.
We have started to hear rumors of increase in criminality through 3rd-country shipments and false labelling. So that too is to be expected.
Everyone is in the same boat, so Trump’s tariffs can be treated as an “exogenous” shock - an event outside of our business to which the market will eventually absorb and adjust to
Yes, prices will rise somewhat. Domestic production will rise also
So to answer your point - it’s not “killing” business in general. There will be some heavy consequences for a few, but most people will adjust.
The economy is holding up fine. Individual situations will always differ. I hope you have good luck making it through until the smoke clears.
You literally just called me an imbecile. Seriously, I’m with you guys but if I can’t make a valid criticism based on facts, then you all are just as bad as the snowflake leftists. Look at the manufacturing reports. They’re down.
There is a deadline. July 9th. Sit tight.
https://www.freightwaves.com/news/trump-administration-tariff-updates-june-19-2025
Thanks for your reply. I appreciate it. The manufacturing index went from -9 to -7 in June. Still contracting but less. I hope you’re right.
Thanks for the link
From article.
“Supply Chain Shifts: Companies are accelerating nearshoring to Mexico to mitigate tariff costs. The Mexican Government reported a 165% surge of new foreign direct investment into the country in Q1 2025, driven by tariff fears, with sectors like automotive and electronics leading the trend.”
We are seeing this exact thing happening right now.
“Mega Dittos. Long time listener, first time caller, but . . .”
Sell it here. Make it here.
Lots will be unsettled until the Rehoming gets up to speed.
Necessary pain to fix long time problems.
Keep flying the flag.
Let folks know what you’re doing, and why.
Buy American is gonna be Yuuuge!
First kind response and reasonable discussion to something that is questionable in many people’s minds; ignore the me-me
ignorant responses to this point.
says you.
demand is also down. why make things no one wants (or can) buy.
People are naive if they think tariffs will enhance domestic production in the short run. Tariffs will increase prices in the short run. The higher prices should induce domestic producers to enter that market and otherwise expand production. However, that increased output doesn’t take place instantaneously. It takes time to activate idle capacity and increase output for any market. In some cases, it means new investment in plant and equipment. Those higher prices are an economic carrot to induce more domestic output, but it is silly to think that happens overnight. Indeed, the tariffs themselves are still uncertain in many markets, so how should businesses know how to react?
Hopefully, Trump stops vacillating, nails down what the tariffs are in all markets, and then see what business does. Meanwhile, sit tight and see what Trump does to remove the uncertainty of the current tariff situation.
Strange, inflation has been .01%, .02%, .01% for the last 3 months.
An economy is a complex thing. Many factors may be involved. Trump putting tariffs up (particularly on China) then reducing some, giving extensions, announcing side deals - does certainly create short-term uncertainty for the whole supply chain.
The media and politics are immediate, while the real effects will only play out over 10 years or longer.
As mentioned, with tariffs, domestic prices definitely need to re-set higher, so it will cause some inflation in the near-term. On the other hand, Trump and the USA are being helped greatly by lower oil prices - which is the base of ALL input costs. The CPI and energy costs are tied at the hip
Having worked with China for many years, I think all of DC sees the need to "decouple." Trump is just far more outspoken and forceful than others. I believe that China is his, and the whole DC establishment's, main target. 10% duties on Chile, Guatemala, Peru, most of Africa, etc. etc... are mere gestures. Their economies and trade will not influence the USA.
On the other hand, China under the CCP is an exception to every economic textbook you've ever read.
55% duties on China are here to stay, and may even go higher.
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