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Battle to define ‘America First’ intensifies as Israel strikes Iran
The Hill ^ | 06/17/25 8:00 AM ET | by Emily Brooks

Posted on 06/17/2025 10:33:12 AM PDT by RandFan

The ideological battle over what “America First” means in the Trump era is intensifying in wake of Israel’s strikes on Iran, splitting the MAGA right and testing its relationships with the president.

On one side, noninterventionist doves insist the Trumpian tagline means the president must avoid U.S. troops, resources or dollars going toward the conflict, for fear of getting dragged into an endless war.

“Anyone slobbering for the U.S. to become fully involved in the Israel/Iran war is not America First/MAGA,” Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) posted Sunday on the social platform X.

But on the other end, foreign policy hawks and supporters of Israel are appealing to President Trump’s position that Iran should not have a nuclear weapon, and encouraging him to leave all options — including direct military intervention — on the table.

“How is it not AMERICA FIRST to congratulate those who just made sure Islamists who chant ‘DEATH TO AMERICA’ and who openly plotted to assassinate President @realDonaldTrump never have an opportunity to have a nuke?” right-wing provocateur Laura Loomer posted on X over the weekend.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: emilybrooks; nevertrump; nevertrumper; nevertrumpers; nevertrumpertrolls; thehill; theshill; trollfarm
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To: exinnj

It was his comment notice the quotations! I quoted him:)


21 posted on 06/17/2025 10:51:35 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

We are not obligated to be the worlds police. But where its in our interests, we have some responsibility.

Your hero seems to be for open borders, or so others here have pointed out. What say you about that?


22 posted on 06/17/2025 10:52:44 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Magnum44

He is not and has never been for open borders just stop that nonsense


23 posted on 06/17/2025 10:53:39 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

This is a totally fake fight dreamed up by the left to split up the right as they have been trying for years. Don’t buy into it people.

All MAGA people and everyone else in the ME want the Mulhas gone. Their only support is from the US Democrat Party.

MAGA just sometime disagrees on the best way forward.


24 posted on 06/17/2025 10:53:54 AM PDT by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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To: RandFan
Do me a favor Loomer is a DISGRACE!

Loomer:

I'm not seeing anything disgraceful in her comment here. Seems like America First common sense.

MTG is 100% right. Half of FR should also take note.

Trump ran and won on the position that Iran should never have a nuclear weapon. Most, not half of FR supported Trump.

25 posted on 06/17/2025 10:54:27 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: RandFan

Then why is he at odds with the BBB? He is in the way of border security.


26 posted on 06/17/2025 10:55:16 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: FreeReign

who says they’re close to having a nuke? Netanyahu has been saying the same thing for 20 years


27 posted on 06/17/2025 10:56:12 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: Magnum44

Go read his twitter. Because the OBBB raises the debt ceiling $5 trillion

“Count me out” is his last tweet


28 posted on 06/17/2025 10:57:05 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

Now I’m pretty sure it’s both you and MTG.


29 posted on 06/17/2025 10:57:06 AM PDT by Dave911
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To: RandFan

“Death to America!!!”???


30 posted on 06/17/2025 10:57:57 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 62, Hadith 88: Mohammed consummated the marriage when she was 9 and he was 54)
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To: RandFan

“November 4 is annually marked by state-organized demonstrations to commemorate the 1979 embassy takeover, during which “Death to America” is commonly chanted. These events are described as “regime-orchestrated shows of anti-Americanism”

- Grok


31 posted on 06/17/2025 10:59:42 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 62, Hadith 88: Mohammed consummated the marriage when she was 9 and he was 54)
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To: RandFan

The ceiling increase is there so we dont have to go back to congress and fight for a 60 vote closure on Trumps requests. Not that we have to spend more, but some people cant comprehend the concept of authorization vs appropriation. Rand is Grand-standing. He needs to get behind the rescission bills and become a team player, not a spoiler.


32 posted on 06/17/2025 11:00:24 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: RandFan

I’m with MTG on this one too.


33 posted on 06/17/2025 11:02:43 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Magnum44

Stay on topic - the folly of regime change..


34 posted on 06/17/2025 11:03:40 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan
who says they’re close to having a nuke?

Iran has stockpiled highly enriched uranium. Iran has ballistic missiles. You deny that?

35 posted on 06/17/2025 11:06:01 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: RandFan

Folly of regime change? If we are changing out Kim Jong Un, go for it. Ayatollah? Go for it. Ridding the world of these tyrants and crooks is doing mankind a favor. Millions of lives could be saved and changed for the better. As stated earlier, Israel, God bless them, has done all the heavy lifting and made the hard decision. If we can help, we should.


36 posted on 06/17/2025 11:08:03 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: FreeReign

Why is this a concern of yours

I could care less


37 posted on 06/17/2025 11:09:31 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: Magnum44

And iraq was such a successful operation and occupation


38 posted on 06/17/2025 11:10:13 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

Trump sure didn’t run on a platform of another regime change war in the middle east.


39 posted on 06/17/2025 11:10:40 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI….)
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To: FreeReign

They’re thousands of miles away

Are you scared?


40 posted on 06/17/2025 11:11:45 AM PDT by RandFan
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