Posted on 06/02/2025 1:11:52 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
The Ukrainian attack on the Russian airfields has been seen as a game-changer in warfare.
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Some commentators believe that the Ukrainian success lifts the curtain on what comes next in terms of threats to the West. Kyiv has shown what is possible, and now, countries like China or even terrorist groups might try to replicate this in attacks on the US military or on other countries. The fact is that this threat was already known, and Western countries have been investing heavily in new counter-UAS technologies. However, the challenge is that there are too many places to defend.
Because the counter-drone tech, whether it be jammers, lasers, or even rifles and missiles, has a limited range, means every place that needs to be defended requires multiple layers of anti-drone defenses. Even if they have some defenses, there are types of drones that may avoid them. This is not an easy threat to overcome, and it is growing exponentially.
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Russia could crush Ukraine like a cockroach.
Do not mistake restraint for weakness.
IMHO, it’s important for the defenses to be as cheap or cheaper than the incoming drone/missile. In other words, for some types of enemy drones, it may be best to go back to a flak style defense.
Flashback 2019:
Saudi oil production cut by 50% after drones attack crude facilities
Saudi Arabia shut down half its oil production Saturday after a series of drone strikes hit the world’s largest oil processing facility in an attack claimed by Yemen’s Houthi rebels.
Don’t care about them, but the takeaway for me is to store all planes in a hanger.
Don’t even have to be that strong, just to keep a light drone away from plane.
I know Dyess and our good bombers like B2 and B21 are kept in hangers routinely, except when rolling down the runway to keep them out of the dust and sun.
It’s a good thing that Biden’s (mal)administration kept a nice tight lid on the border, and certainly didn’t let in tens of thousands of military-aged men from all over the world, so there’s no way that anything like this could happen on US soil.
How about a big tin building? Drones are light and have zero penetration ability.
I’ll call the idea “a hangar”.
I was just reading how trucking in parts of Russia has come to a halt because every truck is being stopped and searched.
The amount of manpower being expended must be huge.
The cost of this attack is going to be much more than the lost assets.
That means going back to nuclear deterrence. Sure you can take out our base, cheaply. Go ahead. My nuke is a whole lot cheaper than your Capital city.
The big thing was having permeable borders. The Ukrainians were able to get the drones on trucks deep into Russian territory before launching them. If you look at the Russian border, it’s gigantic, and there are probably many weak points that an enemy could penetrate.
Here in the US, it would not be so easy for China to sneak in drones. Using shipping containers would be possible, but very risky unless they had help inside the US. But there’s no way to drive a truck from China to California.
Knowing that the US has super secure borders is what helps me sleep at night.
Another reason why all the Chinese foreign “students” need to be deported back to China immediately.
Russia has had 3 years, so why haven’t they?
S/o is the next war going to be a drone war? Of course.
I wonder why the Chinese have been buying up land next to our military bases?
The lesson has always been that the silicon chip has changed everything. Naval surface combatants, land armored vehicles. helicopters over battlefields, and many fixed wing aircraft are obsolete death traps. Drones are just a segment of the surveillance and offensive capabilities that silicon chips and AI that have made battlefield lethal and fixed positions unsustainable. Many brave young soldiers from many nations will die before their battleship admirals and cavalry generals comprehend fully the new realities.
You could just build them in the USA.
Or ship them in unassembled from temu or eBay.
Not that hard
SALT and START treaty requirements are that the delivery vehicles must be visible at all times. So sealing them up in hangars isn't a solution.
As it stands now, the bombers are based in a limited number of locations and parked wing tip to wing tip...Just like Pearl Harbor.
Go back to the 60's where a lot of our bombers were dispersed and constantly moving. It would be much harder for the drones to find them if they are not a static target.
Storing those Tu22’s and Tu-95’s in a hanger violates the START treaty:
‘Within the same type, a heavy bomber equipped for nuclear armaments is to be distinguishable from a heavy bomber equipped for non-nuclear armaments. The term "distinguishable" is defined in Part One of the Protocol. In this context, it means that, within the same type, heavy bombers not equipped for nuclear armaments and heavy bombers equipped for nuclear armaments must be different on the basis of the totality of functional and external differences that are observable by national technical means of verification, or, that are visible during inspection activities.’ START Treaty Article III, para 7
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