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1 posted on 05/30/2025 3:45:53 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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I am so happy we did not get another Bush or Clinton. Bleah!


2 posted on 05/30/2025 3:46:05 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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As I like to point out, the American Experiment is predicated on the idea that political leadership by heredity is a bad idea. The Founders left Europe and wrote the Constitution they did largely because it was such a bad idea.

Here in the modern age, we seem to be wanting to return to this lousy system, with modern twists. I blame mass media.

As I like to say, no more Bushes. No more Clintons. No more Carters. No more Nunns. On down the line.


3 posted on 05/30/2025 3:55:22 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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Other than the thievery Hillary would have done, there would have been little difference between the two. Both would have governed as the Deep State and Elite required.


4 posted on 05/30/2025 3:55:44 AM PDT by Rlsau1
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The Uniparty is largely a result of the Bush-Clinton symbiosis.


5 posted on 05/30/2025 4:06:54 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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In 2016 I was initially for Scott Walker. When he flamed out after the first debate and NR came out with the issue dedicated to kill off Trump, I was all in on Trump. They were going to pick another Romney.


6 posted on 05/30/2025 4:08:33 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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In 2015, the rumors of Trump running for President overwhelmed all forms of information distribution, including water coolers. On TV and radio, the Jeb and Hillary ads were running during and in between shows that were obsessed with Trump running for President. With newspapers, people were only interested in the stories about Trump. Full page ads by Jeb and Hillary were used for bird cage liners. All of this was happening before Trump even announced he was running. By then, money couldn’t beat him.


7 posted on 05/30/2025 4:14:30 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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Early in the 2016 primary season I had lunch with John Fund, former editor of the Wall Street Journal. I started a sentence with “But if Trump were to be the nominee then ...” and he cut me off with: “Trump will not be the nominee.” So I said “Syre, but if he did win the primary then ...” and he cut me off the sane way. I tried the third time to make my point and he literally banged the table:

“Look at me. TRUMP. WILL. NOT. BE. THE. NOMINEE. “

I gave up.


8 posted on 05/30/2025 4:15:19 AM PDT by edwinland
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Puh-leeze.

Those two running would have been nothing but for show. They would ‘debate’ and spar, pretending to hate each other, they would have had videotaped ‘rallies’ and then they would break bread with each other and get sloshed, laughing at how stupid we peasants are. I have do doubt they both would have spent 95% of their time not even campaigning and would have just spent their campaign funds on high cost resorts, hotels, private planes and food and drink galore. Oh, and on hookers for Bill.

This is how far back those two families go:

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F5jmihyceti6e1.jpeg


9 posted on 05/30/2025 4:18:58 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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Great article! I am so glad that Trump stepped up and I can proudly say I voted for him three times!


10 posted on 05/30/2025 4:21:51 AM PDT by quilterdebbie (We will endeavor to persevere!)
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15 posted on 05/30/2025 5:12:26 AM PDT by Nateman (Democrats did not strive for fraud friendly voting merely to continue honest elections.)
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I seem to recall that someone Trumped both Jeb and Hillary that electi9n season. Anyone remember who Trumped them?


16 posted on 05/30/2025 5:16:25 AM PDT by Degaston
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“Stay out da Bushes” (Jesse Hi-Jackson).


17 posted on 05/30/2025 5:18:35 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (“Giving money & power to government is like giving whiskey & car keys to teenage boys” P.J. O’Rourke)
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I remember the ABJECT FEAR here that we’d be stuck with Jeb. Given his money advantage it seemed very possible. The only problem was that the Republican base gets to vote and while they were not initially sure about Trump, they were damn-sure about Jeb and so the rest was history.


18 posted on 05/30/2025 5:21:35 AM PDT by BobL
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The history of political predictions has a horrible accuracy rate. Even from those who allegedly are “experts” on politics. If you believed the experts, we’d have a President Rudy Giuliani, a President Rick Perry, a President Scott Walker in addition to a President Jeb Bush. And Hillary has been the experts’ favorite on the Dem side for 20 years when there has been an open primary.


20 posted on 05/30/2025 5:47:38 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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When you can buy a candidate, you don’t want someone else coming in who you have to buy all over again. Bushes and Clintons are both for sale. Once you buy the candidate, you have to pay more to make sure they win. And the really big money is not American.

The nice thing now-a-days is that there is a cap on how much can be done with money. Because the time is short, its hard to sway opinion fast and strong with just money. You need a movement. News editors in each network were a conveniently small and powerful group who could alter the news to create a change in public opinion. Now you need to find all those Youtubers and the networks and the party and the candidates, and try to buy them all. The Youtubers are the hardest group to get. And they have been proven to be the most formidable at a national level.


22 posted on 05/30/2025 6:10:02 AM PDT by poinq (thics and customs and did not take an oath to the country. And did not follow the country's traditio)
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This was a nice accurate walk down memory lane. People are finally getting sick of the fake GOP v. Dem contests as they recognize the existence of just one uniparty - the establishment.

Trump has popular polices and even better - he is crushing the establishment in politics and the media and that hopefully will be a permanent improvement for voters.


24 posted on 05/30/2025 6:26:56 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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In the late spring of 2015, there hadn’t been many polls or any primaries, and Trump hadn’t even come down the escalator. “Predictions” made at that point were bound to be wrong. Had Jeb even raised much money then, or was Krauthammer counting the money that he thought Jeb would get in the future?

Did anyone seriously predict that Rudy Giuliani or Scott Walker or Rick Perry would be president? A few people might have hoped so. I’m put in mind of 2012 when people were talking up Pawlenty and Daniels before anyone knew much about them. A year and a half before the election anything seems possible. In any case, Cruz and Rubio turned out to be Trump’s main competition in 2016.


30 posted on 05/30/2025 8:41:36 AM PDT by x
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Bush’s & Clintons... ptooey!


33 posted on 05/30/2025 5:50:14 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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